2016 Postmortem

Chitown Kev

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10. Maybe...maybe not...that's not my point

Fri Oct 23, 2015, 01:02 AM

Oct 2015

but that is for the black community to decide based on whatever criteria that members of our community decides (which includes a number of factors...and of course, many people (not just African Americans) are members of multiple communities.

My point is that white progressives have no moral grounds to dictate what candidates we should vote for and our criteria for voting for them...and quite a few white progressives are doing that through browbeating and what not (and of course, some black progressives don't like Sanders or Clinton).

People need to go back and read their history; I posted a lot of stuff on bravenak's thread about FDR, The New Deal, and how The New Deal, in some was, wasn't that good for blacks. About 75% of blacks still voted for FDR from 1936-44 (personally, I think that was more of a vote for Eleanor than for Franklin).

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How did DU Primaries become such a racially divisive place? [View all] Bread and Circus Oct 2015 OP

I must hate my own people because I am black and big JRLeft Oct 2015 #1

Because the USA is a racially divisive country. delrem Oct 2015 #2

Not all the Founding Fathers thought slavery was cool Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #43

The tone of your post Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #3

And we were wrong he's bought and paid for. He's showing his true colors daily. JRLeft Oct 2015 #4

Maybe...maybe not...that's not my point Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #10

Unfortunately, the country was so racist at the time no way we could benefit. JRLeft Oct 2015 #14

Why are you bringing up Bill Clinton in response to Kev's point about FDR? Number23 Oct 2015 #15

Sorry about that, I wanted to point out how Wall Street's policies JRLeft Oct 2015 #17

Well, black folks (and other POC) are kind of used to being fucked over Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #21

True, even under Bush with the option arm aka adjustable rate mortgages. JRLeft Oct 2015 #42

That's my point... Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #18

I made a post years ago that talked about the white liberal left's harassing and haranguing Number23 Oct 2015 #32

Well this Bernie Sanders supporter thinks the African American community owes Snotcicles Oct 2015 #37

It isn't really Fumesucker Oct 2015 #5

It was the reaction to Black Lives Matter that did it BainsBane Oct 2015 #6

Good OP, thank you. DU is not racially divisive. There are a few people here TRYING to make it so, sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #7

I think the best way to understand might be to murielm99 Oct 2015 #8

+100000000000 BainsBane Oct 2015 #11

Yup! Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #13

I went the Blacklivesmatter website and I am confused. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #38

You are talking to the wrong person. murielm99 Oct 2015 #39

I am not sure if I am to take your post as being helpful or arrogant. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #40

I was trying to be helpful. murielm99 Oct 2015 #47

ok thank you Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #48

I'll give this a shot gwheezie Oct 2015 #9

Great post. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #12

Perfect response from you. As usual Number23 Oct 2015 #16

+1 Starry Messenger Oct 2015 #22

This....all of it. nt Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #24

Nothing to add Dem2 Oct 2015 #29

Well spoken. Skidmore Oct 2015 #30

Beautifully stated! n/t Spazito Oct 2015 #34

Nailed it. Agschmid Oct 2015 #44

Most of it is done by a small group of people AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #19

IMO it started when it became very beneficial to one candidates supporters to make it that way azurnoir Oct 2015 #20

Calling Black Lives Matter a "Soros funded Hillary group" didn't help. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #23

Ask the guy who diagnosed black and LGBT Hillary supporters as suffering from Stockholm Syndrome..nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #25

^^^ This right here MohRokTah Oct 2015 #31

Start here Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #26

BJ, I think the genesis of all of this was Cali_Dem's OP in May where he dared to note Hillary's Number23 Oct 2015 #33

Ah, right you are... Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #36

That gif... Agschmid Oct 2015 #45

Exactly Armstead Oct 2015 #27

Sour grapes. randome Oct 2015 #28

I put the people who try to stir up crap on ignore. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #35

Bernie has a 100% rating from the NAACP Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #46

Excellent post and sorry I did not see this earlier ... slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #41