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In reply to the discussion: I am getting a bit tired of constant victim status for Hillary [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)133. You posted the same link twice.
your responses to posts like the OP about someone on his campaign ejecting pro-Palestinian protestors, or bringing up his policies toward Israel. That is what I am talking about.
You mean the blogger who claimed Bernie didn't allow pro-Palestinian dissent at his rallies?
The one who was later proven to be wrong?
Murtaza Hussain ?@MazMHussain 2h2 hours ago
Bernie Sanders campaign called me and made clear that the ejection of the SJP students was not campaign policy. Update soon.
https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/651225964832141312
Bernie Sanders campaign called me and made clear that the ejection of the SJP students was not campaign policy. Update soon.
https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/651225964832141312
Bernie Sanders campaign says pro-Palestine activists should never have been kicked out of Boston rally
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But Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver told Boston.com Monday night that the incident 100 percent should not have happened and that the staffer never should have asked the students to take the sign down.
Weaver said the individual, whom he described as a low-level volunteer, will no longer be working campaign events.
Weve communicated to our staff to make sure nothing like this happens again, he said.
Weaver also said he reached out to the three individuals asked to leave to let them know the incident should not have happened and to apologize on behalf on the campaign.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/10/05/bernie-sanders-campaign-says-pro-palestine-activists-should-never-have-been-kicked-out-boston-rally/QbqJeTYKFi4shsKlgk9fPK/story.html?s_campaign=bcom%3Asocialflow%3Atwitter
Excerpt:
But Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver told Boston.com Monday night that the incident 100 percent should not have happened and that the staffer never should have asked the students to take the sign down.
Weaver said the individual, whom he described as a low-level volunteer, will no longer be working campaign events.
Weve communicated to our staff to make sure nothing like this happens again, he said.
Weaver also said he reached out to the three individuals asked to leave to let them know the incident should not have happened and to apologize on behalf on the campaign.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/10/05/bernie-sanders-campaign-says-pro-palestine-activists-should-never-have-been-kicked-out-boston-rally/QbqJeTYKFi4shsKlgk9fPK/story.html?s_campaign=bcom%3Asocialflow%3Atwitter
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Given your great concern for anti-semitism, I would have thought I would have seen you denouncing the spate of posts we had about a year ago when Gaza was being bombed. I don't recall seeing you raise concern about one thread after another comparing Israelis to Nazis, or a poster who invoked the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. In fact, I remember being one of a very small handful of posters speaking out about that, as I do against Islamophobia, racism, sexism, anti-Catholicism, etc...
I don't go into I/P, ever. It is like the religion forum only worse, everyone talks past each other and blames the other side.
Once you've done a search of my posts and find something bigoted get back to me, because right now you're reaching for something and falling flat on your face.
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Yet suddenly it's a major concern for you because of Sanders? I have trouble when general principles are not in fact principles but apply to a few great men rather than all people. That is what I find disingenuous.
Nope, not disingenuous, like I said, I don't go into I/P but I do post in GDP in defense of my candidate who is Jewish.
It actually started when Diane Rehm accused Bernie of having dual citizenship, after seeing how posters reacted to that thread I decided to speak up because not enough posters were aware of the anti-Semitism.
So I did speak up and I also posted the first op about anti-Semitism.
I spoke up and posted another op when hillarysupporters.com posted an article and vicious anti-Semitic remarks were made and repeated here.
So I can't help it if you are selective with your outrage, did you object to the anti-Semitism when it occurred there? Because I didn't see anyone call out the poster who made those claims.
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The other thing I observed about your responses is that you don't do what many do when they are concerned about bigotry: explain how and why something is bigoted (except for your OP, which you didn't write but merely reposted). You used it as a club. Like here, for example. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251650448#post5
Whereas when a Sanders supporter posted it a day earlier, you did not wield the club similarly. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251650448#post5(People will have to look at the first, unedited version to see what you responded to) Exact same story, exact same event, yet your responses were entirely different.
Whereas when a Sanders supporter posted it a day earlier, you did not wield the club similarly. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251650448#post5(People will have to look at the first, unedited version to see what you responded to) Exact same story, exact same event, yet your responses were entirely different.
That's why I posted the op, so that people could be educated if they wanted to know what anti-Semitism is. And to their credit many posted and rec'd that op, while others denied anti-Semitism exists on DU.
It's really too bad that my outspoken criticism of anti-Semitism doesn't sit well with you, nor are my numerous posts and ops about other kinds of religious bigotry good enough but like I said, once you find something bigoted in my posting history, get back to me.
Until then you're just another hypocrite who didn't speak out in those threads when you had the chance.
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She's never sought the sympathy vote - she guts it out no matter what is thrown in front of her.
George II
Oct 2015
#90
She lets nothing (words) deter her from fulfilling her personal ambition. Poor thing!
merrily
Oct 2015
#147
Hillary has never claimed victim: She is fighter: She is aware of attacks on her
lewebley3
Oct 2015
#97
Oh, please. She's claimed victim for decades. Vast right wing conspiracy, media, sexism, you name it
merrily
Oct 2015
#148
It's interesting that you would use the word "hysterical" in discussing Clinton's candidacy
Orrex
Oct 2015
#171
The Vast right wring is just a fact: They have never stopped hunting the Clintons
lewebley3
Oct 2015
#193
She's also smarter and tougher than anyone running. I can't wait to see her destroy the repugs.
Laser102
Oct 2015
#167
Didn't you accuse another DUer of being sexist for calling Hillary a chicken?
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#3
+1 ...yes that was me that was accused. One of the most ridiculous accusations I've ever seen on DU.
L0oniX
Oct 2015
#113
I also think it's fair to discuss the path of what could be the first woman President.
AlbertCat
Oct 2015
#38
That's why Clinton supporters are so absolutely rabid in their hatred of Sanders
Scootaloo
Oct 2015
#45
Stop right there. I've seen it on both sides and it is time we put a stop to the name-calling.
Bohunk68
Oct 2015
#159
I don't mind her positions being criticized, but much of it is absolutely exaggerated.
olegramps
Oct 2015
#53
I doubt you will find any progressive that will not agree that HRC is tough. But tough
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#130
We live in an authoritarian society where tough is more important than empathy.
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#189
It's an insult to Women, morphing in to a Southerner when in the South, Lost Sleep, cheating hubby,
orpupilofnature57
Oct 2015
#4
NOT play the gender card? Claimed she's a Washington outsider because she's a WOMAN.
magical thyme
Oct 2015
#93
It's JaneyVee's way of saying they don't actually care about Clinton's policies
Scootaloo
Oct 2015
#29
Less a gobbledygook than an article of faith, or a sincerely held belief.
Jester Messiah
Oct 2015
#176
The only reason she is still relevant in any way is because she plays the victim so well. n/t
A Simple Game
Oct 2015
#46
When our founders were also fighting for freedom their enemies, the Loyalists called them
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#194
Fair enough, My father was a struggling business owner, She is part of the 1% ,Those who aspired to
orpupilofnature57
Oct 2015
#117
It's all Image, but when you attach it to her actions it's confusing at best .
orpupilofnature57
Oct 2015
#27
Pretending to have a Southern accent is a way to appease antebellum .
orpupilofnature57
Oct 2015
#118
" March " Megalomaniac talk is a sign of suppressed fear, I fear they'll vote without thinking .
orpupilofnature57
Oct 2015
#28
You would think if they really thought they had the nomination in the bag they would act nicer to
Bernblu
Oct 2015
#161
What are you talking about? Hillary is NOT complaining that people are shouting about her.
pnwmom
Oct 2015
#33
Hillary has taken a lot of heat, much of it not deserved but she still stands tall,
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#34
"It's kind of sickening when she uses gender as a qualification and/or a defense"????
George II
Oct 2015
#39
Oh please. Calling out strident, paranoid, speculative accusations is hardly being a victim.
nolabear
Oct 2015
#40
his arm-waving is clearly a patriarchy-benefiting attempt to SEIZE the discourse and
MisterP
Oct 2015
#47
It's laughable. That's why I laughed when I heard it! One the most privileged, wealthy women with
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#51
It's pathetic. Woe is me! The 74 year old Bernie bully said I was shouting, so he's sexist.
in_cog_ni_to
Oct 2015
#64
Poor victim status is just another tool to use for leverage on the gullible for Clinton.
99Forever
Oct 2015
#70
Right now at a point I might just turn Independent from the vile from her camp
PatrynXX
Oct 2015
#74
Doubt you have been defending other Dem's: Attacks the Clinton's are attacks on Dem's
lewebley3
Oct 2015
#99
The comments in this thread rival the kinds of personal insults I see from the right wing.
BlueCheese
Oct 2015
#110
I disagree. I see the constant victim status for Hillary as an endearing quality.
Enthusiast
Oct 2015
#121
You know, when I am dealing with a total jerk, I never think about what gender I'm dealing with.
DrBulldog
Oct 2015
#131
You're not the only one. Women I know react to her constant 'I'm a woman' reminders with
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#134
the hysteria seems to have reached new highs since her Benghazi panel triumph
Skittles
Oct 2015
#139
Exactly. Does anyone think that the real enemies of our country - whomever they might be -
DrBulldog
Oct 2015
#170
Mega rich and one of the most powerful people on the planet...but she's a poor wittle victim...
Bread and Circus
Oct 2015
#183
Hillary wants the Democrats to pull their punches so she can get to the General Election.
Major Hogwash
Oct 2015
#187