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91. From The Texas Observer.. posted on FB..
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:38 AM
Nov 2015

June 30 · 1998
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Sanders to Sierra Blanca: "Drop Dead!"

BY OLIVE HERSHEY


"Habla por mi," one of Gary Oliver's neighbors called out, as Gary stepped into Susan Curry's car a couple of weeks ago. West Texans Curry, Oliver, and Hal Flanders were bound for Vermont to deliver this message to officials and citizens of the Green Mountain state: don't nuke West Texas. Gary's neighbor lives in Sal si Puedes, a suburb on the east side of Marfa that sometimes floods so badly that its residents are cut off from the rest of the town by a deep-running arroyo. "Sal si puedes" means, "Get out if you can."

To speak for West Texas, these three were driving 2,000 miles to Montpelier, the Vermont capital, to address the Senate Natural Resources Committee chair, and to make the case against a plan to ship low-level nuclear waste from the Vermont Yankee plant in Vernon to Sierra Blanca, hard by the Rio Grande, in Hudspeth County, Texas. Maine's nuclear waste is also part of the deal.

The Vermont Chapter of the Sierra Club had arranged for this hearing, held in the stately granite building that looks like a small prototype of the Texas Capitol. Apparently, some Vermonters are waking from their long utopian dream of environmental purity and moral rectitude, and they're having second thoughts about shipping their nuke waste to Texas. The committee chairman, state Senator Elizabeth Ready, acknowledged, "Some of us don't feel very good about it."

So badly do environmentally sensitive Vermonters feel that about forty of them listened for two hours while Oliver, Flanders, and Curry delivered their message in no uncertain terms: Sierra Blanca, which was chosen for purely political reasons, is environmentally no better suited than Vermont for burying nuclear waste. And after the West Texans got through lambasting federal, state, and local politicians from all three Compact states, as well as the nuclear utility lobbyists whom they hold responsible for arranging things this way, several of the Vermonters in the audience stood up and apologized.

During the following week, the West Texans joined an anti-nuclear weapons march from Montpelier to Springfield, sponsored by the Unitarian Church and the American Friends Service Committee. The marchers from Vermont were careful to restrain the West Texans from protesting aloud on any platform occupied by Bernie Sanders, Vermont's independent Socialist candidate for re-election to the U.S. House. Sanders' campaign committee had warned march planners that Bernie wouldn't show if the West Texans were on the platform.

Nonetheless, spirits were high on Thursday morning, August 20, as the West Texans, along with about twenty Vermonters, trudged up and down the lush green hills on their way to a Springfield rally, where Bernie was scheduled to speak. They'd driven two thousand miles and walked nearly a hundred, and they'd had a wonderful time, meeting Vermonters, talking with them about the Sierra Blanca dump, and changing quite a few minds. Gary Oliver explained some of the group dynamics this way: "There'd been all this tension on the walk, because it's been planned since February, and we just got invited two months ago. But the issues [nuclear power and nuclear weapons] are two warts on the same hog."

Before the rally Sanders invited the three West Texans to meet with him privately, and the Texans eagerly agreed. The meeting was no longer than Sanders' attention span - when it comes to Sierra Blanca. "He didn't listen," Curry said. "He had his mind made up." Afterward, Bernie was giving his pro forma campaign speech, never mentioning nuclear power or nuclear waste. Sierra Blanca activist Bill Addington, who'd arrived just that morning to join the march, along with his neighbor María Méndez, had had enough, and he yelled from the crowd, "What about my home, Bernie? What about Sierra Blanca?"

Several others joined in. "What about Sierra Blanca, Bernie?"

Sanders left the stage, which surprised no one in the small Texas delegation. Earlier, he had told them, "My position is unchanged, and you're not gonna like it." When they asked if he would visit the site in Sierra Blanca, he said, "Absolutely not. I'm gonna be running for re-election in the state of Vermont."

A few people took Bill Addington to task for being so rude. Then all the marchers took the stage, to sing a unique version of "Down by the Riverside." One of the new verses was, "I'm gonna lay down my nuclear waste, down by the riverside." The West Texas marchers sang along.

Asked how he felt about the rally, Hal Flanders summed it up: "I'm disgusted."

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Yes--it was a disgraceful chapter in his career, one that even VT activists didn't agree with. MADem Nov 2015 #1
The person who posted that article had her thread hidden BainsBane Nov 2015 #8
I find that very interesting bravenak Nov 2015 #13
But they claim they want to "discuss the issues". JaneyVee Nov 2015 #22
Only issues bad for Hillary. bravenak Nov 2015 #25
Such as? SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #59
Republican lies bravenak Nov 2015 #62
Which are posted and Re-posted week after week riversedge Nov 2015 #85
which one would you like? restorefreedom Nov 2015 #93
Use your DU search feature to find articles posted here from MADem Nov 2015 #119
It is a real problem and some of the ones who arent paid to be here by Karl Rove are randys1 Nov 2015 #154
I agree. When I see those sites without any "grain of salt" MADem Nov 2015 #170
Darn, you got us Scootaloo Nov 2015 #177
If the "legitimate criticisms of Clinton from the left" are indeed, MADem Nov 2015 #179
I see claims, but no support for them Scootaloo Nov 2015 #181
You can do your own homework, if you've a mind. MADem Nov 2015 #183
Why would I do work to support your claim? Support it yourself, if you can Scootaloo Nov 2015 #192
I'm not going to be sucked into an alert scenario, thanks anyway. nt MADem Nov 2015 #194
Hmmm--odd, double post! I deleted this one. NT MADem Nov 2015 #180
Well, outside of their group, nobody believes that. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #134
the Berniebro bullyboys are out in force tonight mwrguy Nov 2015 #18
I can picture them right now... Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #24
That's how you see Sanders supporters? That's funny Scootaloo Nov 2015 #176
It's a shame that this place has sunk so low. MADem Nov 2015 #122
I saw that--disgraceful. There's no excuse for that kind of "partisan censorship." MADem Nov 2015 #32
I noticed you left off the title to the article. JimDandy Nov 2015 #38
Well, that goes both ways. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #55
if you were banned how are you still here ? JI7 Nov 2015 #65
Probably blocked from Hillary group... Human101948 Nov 2015 #79
You're not missing much, I don't imagine. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #156
That's exactly what happened. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #166
Sorry--that's not the same thing. MADem Nov 2015 #106
No, she posted a libelous title to an article, the same title you weren't willing post JimDandy Nov 2015 #124
Utter nonsense. The title was the title given by the TX OBSERVER. MADem Nov 2015 #125
"Talking trash" by saying nobody is on par with Elizabeth Warren? SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #167
You were in the CLINTON group. The issue isn't saints, it's MADem Nov 2015 #169
Well, that explains that. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #193
Just couldn't handle the facts. Cha Nov 2015 #92
No, it contained the libelous, ugly title of the article, too JimDandy Nov 2015 #33
Libel is a legal term BainsBane Nov 2015 #46
"Drop dead" is a legitimate journalistic metaphor used R B Garr Nov 2015 #84
Yes but Drop Dead was put in quotes. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #107
Lol, it's a journalistic metaphor and is commonly R B Garr Nov 2015 #114
And what law school did you attend? Agschmid Nov 2015 #136
LOL! I'll rephrase: factually incorrect assertion in printed text. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #163
No, not when it's in quotes. That was an ugly smear, a lie JimDandy Nov 2015 #108
Sanders own words were ugly, and he was coldly R B Garr Nov 2015 #111
You're regurgitating ugly lies and you're losing the argument. JimDandy Nov 2015 #115
You called Clinton a Queen, so it looks like your R B Garr Nov 2015 #120
You should be proud...Queen is used to show someone JimDandy Nov 2015 #123
No, you used Queen as a sneering, derogatory term. R B Garr Nov 2015 #139
I think you're the one who has lost the argument, and you're not dealing with it MADem Nov 2015 #173
I posted the newspaper article in it's entirety, in photo form. MADem Nov 2015 #147
Exactly, BB. Why do they find some of BS's past so distasteful they want to censor it!!? Cha Nov 2015 #49
I wondered about that hide Scootaloo Nov 2015 #155
I haven't seen them BainsBane Nov 2015 #162
Who would admit to serving on that kangaroo court? nt MADem Nov 2015 #171
Where is this from? SoapBox Nov 2015 #31
It was way back when VT was shipping their shit to TX--in the 90s, when Sanders was a Rep. MADem Nov 2015 #37
Lol Texas had to permit such a dump to be located there actually 2 such dumps azurnoir Nov 2015 #43
TX oligarchy was willing to subject citizens to it so Rose Siding Nov 2015 #94
No one took advantage of anything Vt needed to dispose of largely medical waste azurnoir Nov 2015 #95
And absolve the congressman who told the TX activists to MADem Nov 2015 #121
You know NY literally shipped their shit to Sierra Blanca for years, by train. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #113
It's OK when New York does it. Because of reasons. arcane1 Nov 2015 #116
Yeah, I am not feeling that "excuse" at all. Two Wrongs Makes a Right is usually abandoned in MADem Nov 2015 #130
And? They shouldn't have done that either--but two wrongs do not make a right. MADem Nov 2015 #117
The point is that this issue is being exploited by people who are so unaware of Sierra Blanca's Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #144
Your focus is wrong. Turn AWAY from Sierra Blanca. MADem Nov 2015 #146
Ah so the people of Sierra Blanca are props to you. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #158
You do realize that you're gish galloping away from the point MADem Nov 2015 #172
1998 RandySF Nov 2015 #41
2 years after the Bill Clinton campaigned to be re-elected on the backs of those same azurnoir Nov 2015 #44
but he didn't dump waste on their heads... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #71
Neither did Bernie odd how Hillary's people are willing to give Texas's Republican State azurnoir Nov 2015 #72
Yeah he did.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #74
Lol maybe you need to read the entire thread he did not azurnoir Nov 2015 #75
He still voted for it....Politifact... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #81
yes he did the rest is extrapolation and IMO giving repukes an undeserved break azurnoir Nov 2015 #87
Oh yeah...a break! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #89
Bernie wears a halo? that's a rather out of place comment don't you think? azurnoir Nov 2015 #96
Some on DU seem to think so..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #97
Can you link me up to a comment from a Bernie supporter saying that? azurnoir Nov 2015 #98
hang around.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #99
In other words you can't azurnoir Nov 2015 #100
No in other words I am not going to... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #101
first I'm not a dude I'm a woman and second just for the record I' almost 60 azurnoir Nov 2015 #102
Just for the record...I am in my 50's VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #103
didn't clinton sign it into law? questionseverything Nov 2015 #133
Yes. Bill Clinton did sign it into law. (nt) PotatoChip Nov 2015 #186
If that is your argument, then Bill Clinton apparently did not care about brown people either. PotatoChip Nov 2015 #188
Yes he did. He was POTUS at the time, and signed the bill into law. (nt) PotatoChip Nov 2015 #184
For a state? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #185
Bill Clinton signed it as POTUS. PotatoChip Nov 2015 #187
Bernie opposes nuclear energy because, in part, of the waste. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #42
"geology in Vermont is even less safe for storing nuclear waste than the particular area of Texas" BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #140
We should not use nuclear energy because we have no place that is really safe for the waste. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #142
Very good post, the war hawk has to apply to Sanders since he has more than one time voted for Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #161
Superb post. Just superb. MADem Nov 2015 #174
Thank you, MADem. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #189
Interesting. I saw your post, clicked the link, logged into FB, searched the group and never found Autumn Nov 2015 #159
The problem is yours, I'm afraid--I just clicked a second ago, on the same link, MADem Nov 2015 #175
The post is there on your link. When you click Like on the page belonging to Autumn Nov 2015 #191
When I click on the link, it goes straight to the post. MADem Nov 2015 #195
That's exactly what I said in my post. Autumn Nov 2015 #196
But the post is still in their newsfeed. If the post was "removed" MADem Nov 2015 #197
The post was shared by 4 people so yes it is still on FB. Somewhere. That post is not on Autumn Nov 2015 #198
So they DUMPED nuclear waste on poor brown folks? I refuse to believe Bernie would stand for that! bravenak Nov 2015 #2
They didn't dump nuclear waste on poor brown folks Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #29
So nothing is there? I knew he wouldn't do such a thing! bravenak Nov 2015 #30
Nope there isn't but do keep up the efforts azurnoir Nov 2015 #73
It takes absolutely no effort. That is the sad part. None. bravenak Nov 2015 #76
no poo flinging doesn't take much effort at all does it? azurnoir Nov 2015 #77
I do not need to fling poo. Just be extra polite. bravenak Nov 2015 #80
Indeed you are!!! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #82
Thank you!! bravenak Nov 2015 #83
when who stops? but I agree you have all the right in world to fling poo azurnoir Nov 2015 #86
When the stupid stops. I simply cannot take it anymore. bravenak Nov 2015 #90
You are spreading delusional lies. I am a bi-racial woman riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #110
Ironcially, New York literally dumped their poo in Sierra Blanca from 1992-2001. Trainloads of it. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #109
Why is that ironic? You don't explain that bit. MADem Nov 2015 #129
It's ironic because you and others keep saying 'VT sent their shit to Texas' and 'flinging poo' Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #149
As I've said elsewhere, in the context of this candidacy, the MADem Nov 2015 #150
yep in 1998 2 years after Bill Clinton won re-election on the backs of the poor across the board azurnoir Nov 2015 #47
I said I refuse to believe it bravenak Nov 2015 #48
Wonder why all the nuke dumps are in dry western states? eridani Nov 2015 #66
You'd prefer that they dump it on MILLIONS of brown, blackfolk in the northeast corridor? Armstead Nov 2015 #68
Poor white folks. progressoid Nov 2015 #151
K&R Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #3
I'm not a fan of nuclear fission power jfern Nov 2015 #4
Near the poor he claims to champion. RandySF Nov 2015 #5
Those poor brown souls. bravenak Nov 2015 #6
Maybe some merit his attention more than others. RandySF Nov 2015 #9
Sure seems like it bravenak Nov 2015 #11
Look, ideally we wouldn't have nuclear fission power with all its radioactive problems jfern Nov 2015 #10
There's an excuse for everything, isn't there? RandySF Nov 2015 #15
My question you didn't answer was an excuse? jfern Nov 2015 #19
How about the hundreds of thousands of square miles in America where... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #16
I don't know if they pick the middle of nowhere for low level radioactive waste jfern Nov 2015 #21
It is more authentic to dump in the West ban-- I mean Texas LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #14
Absolutely BainsBane Nov 2015 #17
I'm pretty sure Vermont was too wet jfern Nov 2015 #26
Shhhh JackInGreen Nov 2015 #28
It had nothing to do with their race BainsBane Nov 2015 #50
Vermont did just shut down their nuclear power plant jfern Nov 2015 #54
Sierra Blanca never saw any waste from VT, NY however sent them sewage from 92-2001 hundreds Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #143
K & R SunSeeker Nov 2015 #7
Obviously those Texans are corporatists BainsBane Nov 2015 #12
But I'm sure she would have voted against it. Right? Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #20
This again? blackspade Nov 2015 #23
Hmmm... SoapBox Nov 2015 #27
Then it should have been perfectly safe to keep it in Vermont. RandySF Nov 2015 #34
Or Maine! SoapBox Nov 2015 #35
Or Texas! Since they were involved too! SoapBox Nov 2015 #36
This has been explained a number of times. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #39
Because they run out of things to attack Bernie with jfern Nov 2015 #45
Thank you! SoapBox Nov 2015 #53
Probably the same was true of Maine. Environment is virtually the same as Vermont. Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2015 #69
You're granting the attackers a presumption of sincerity that is not justified n/t arcane1 Nov 2015 #132
So next time, dump it Arlington. Feeling the Bern Nov 2015 #40
Sierra Blanca, TX...more interesting by the moment. SoapBox Nov 2015 #51
So...Sanders represented VT on nuclear waste. And Clinton represented NY on Iraq. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #52
No, New Yorkers aren't a bunch of dumb warmongers jfern Nov 2015 #57
But NYC did send tons of human waste to Sierra Blanca Texas by the trainload instead of processing Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #112
OMG! The Low Level Nuclear Waste site, was NEVER built! SoapBox Nov 2015 #56
Biggest scandal ever! jfern Nov 2015 #58
Well, no nuclear waste was ever shipped there but NYC sent human waste to Sierra Blanca by train Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #105
Well, well...President Clinton! SoapBox Nov 2015 #60
as Senator representing Vermont it was his job to do what he could to help Vermont JI7 Nov 2015 #61
Hillary voted for the Iraq war! nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #63
go start your own thread. Try to keep this one one topic. riversedge Nov 2015 #88
I Remember that! My county was one of the finalist competing for that site! LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #64
We all can remember this, failing to convert even one Sanders supporter, from a couple of months djean111 Nov 2015 #67
Why would this be a scandal? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #70
The multi-state "compact" proposal was part of a larger scheme jberryhill Nov 2015 #127
Whoops Bernie's halo needs a little adjusting workinclasszero Nov 2015 #78
From The Texas Observer.. posted on FB.. Cha Nov 2015 #91
Repeat! It was never built! And the measure was signed by President CLINTON! SoapBox Nov 2015 #104
Bernie's stand and attempts at pushing this forward is a big fucking deal Sheepshank Nov 2015 #141
Not the point RandySF Nov 2015 #152
Actually randy, it is exactly the point. 99Forever Nov 2015 #160
This particular item was posted once before. Vinca Nov 2015 #118
Bernie's fellow Vermonters, many of them, agreed with the people from TX and apologized to them. MADem Nov 2015 #128
So you think a site abutting the Connecticut River isn't subject to flooding? Vinca Nov 2015 #135
You're telling me that VT has NO real estate to stash their own shit? MADem Nov 2015 #137
Wow - you're totally overwhelmed with Bernie hate, aren't you? Vinca Nov 2015 #157
But it's Sanders so it's ok. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #126
Wow. This was an ugly act against a poor Mexican populace. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #131
Really? You going to push that baloney...again? Really? SoapBox Nov 2015 #148
I got it, Texas will ship Vermont their nuclear waste, now that would be fair. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #164
As they say, truth matters...and hurts. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #190
Because he never thought he would ever seek their votes. RandySF Nov 2015 #182
Kick & recommended. William769 Nov 2015 #138
Real clear on the Real Clear Politics... SoapBox Nov 2015 #145
So voting for an illegal war is fine then Politicalboi Nov 2015 #153
Maybe you could sign up for some of the nuclear waste in order to support Sanders, show how it is Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #165
Fighting Amongst Ourselves paul ofnoclique Nov 2015 #168
I have brought this issue up a couple of times Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #178
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