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In reply to the discussion: Politifact: Sanders "Actively Ushered" Bill to Dump Nuclear Waste Near Poor West Texas Town [View all]Cha
(297,184 posts)91. From The Texas Observer.. posted on FB..
June 30 · 1998
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Sanders to Sierra Blanca: "Drop Dead!"
BY OLIVE HERSHEY
"Habla por mi," one of Gary Oliver's neighbors called out, as Gary stepped into Susan Curry's car a couple of weeks ago. West Texans Curry, Oliver, and Hal Flanders were bound for Vermont to deliver this message to officials and citizens of the Green Mountain state: don't nuke West Texas. Gary's neighbor lives in Sal si Puedes, a suburb on the east side of Marfa that sometimes floods so badly that its residents are cut off from the rest of the town by a deep-running arroyo. "Sal si puedes" means, "Get out if you can."
To speak for West Texas, these three were driving 2,000 miles to Montpelier, the Vermont capital, to address the Senate Natural Resources Committee chair, and to make the case against a plan to ship low-level nuclear waste from the Vermont Yankee plant in Vernon to Sierra Blanca, hard by the Rio Grande, in Hudspeth County, Texas. Maine's nuclear waste is also part of the deal.
The Vermont Chapter of the Sierra Club had arranged for this hearing, held in the stately granite building that looks like a small prototype of the Texas Capitol. Apparently, some Vermonters are waking from their long utopian dream of environmental purity and moral rectitude, and they're having second thoughts about shipping their nuke waste to Texas. The committee chairman, state Senator Elizabeth Ready, acknowledged, "Some of us don't feel very good about it."
So badly do environmentally sensitive Vermonters feel that about forty of them listened for two hours while Oliver, Flanders, and Curry delivered their message in no uncertain terms: Sierra Blanca, which was chosen for purely political reasons, is environmentally no better suited than Vermont for burying nuclear waste. And after the West Texans got through lambasting federal, state, and local politicians from all three Compact states, as well as the nuclear utility lobbyists whom they hold responsible for arranging things this way, several of the Vermonters in the audience stood up and apologized.
During the following week, the West Texans joined an anti-nuclear weapons march from Montpelier to Springfield, sponsored by the Unitarian Church and the American Friends Service Committee. The marchers from Vermont were careful to restrain the West Texans from protesting aloud on any platform occupied by Bernie Sanders, Vermont's independent Socialist candidate for re-election to the U.S. House. Sanders' campaign committee had warned march planners that Bernie wouldn't show if the West Texans were on the platform.
Nonetheless, spirits were high on Thursday morning, August 20, as the West Texans, along with about twenty Vermonters, trudged up and down the lush green hills on their way to a Springfield rally, where Bernie was scheduled to speak. They'd driven two thousand miles and walked nearly a hundred, and they'd had a wonderful time, meeting Vermonters, talking with them about the Sierra Blanca dump, and changing quite a few minds. Gary Oliver explained some of the group dynamics this way: "There'd been all this tension on the walk, because it's been planned since February, and we just got invited two months ago. But the issues [nuclear power and nuclear weapons] are two warts on the same hog."
Before the rally Sanders invited the three West Texans to meet with him privately, and the Texans eagerly agreed. The meeting was no longer than Sanders' attention span - when it comes to Sierra Blanca. "He didn't listen," Curry said. "He had his mind made up." Afterward, Bernie was giving his pro forma campaign speech, never mentioning nuclear power or nuclear waste. Sierra Blanca activist Bill Addington, who'd arrived just that morning to join the march, along with his neighbor María Méndez, had had enough, and he yelled from the crowd, "What about my home, Bernie? What about Sierra Blanca?"
Several others joined in. "What about Sierra Blanca, Bernie?"
Sanders left the stage, which surprised no one in the small Texas delegation. Earlier, he had told them, "My position is unchanged, and you're not gonna like it." When they asked if he would visit the site in Sierra Blanca, he said, "Absolutely not. I'm gonna be running for re-election in the state of Vermont."
A few people took Bill Addington to task for being so rude. Then all the marchers took the stage, to sing a unique version of "Down by the Riverside." One of the new verses was, "I'm gonna lay down my nuclear waste, down by the riverside." The West Texas marchers sang along.
Asked how he felt about the rally, Hal Flanders summed it up: "I'm disgusted."
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Politifact: Sanders "Actively Ushered" Bill to Dump Nuclear Waste Near Poor West Texas Town [View all]
RandySF
Nov 2015
OP
Yes--it was a disgraceful chapter in his career, one that even VT activists didn't agree with.
MADem
Nov 2015
#1
It is a real problem and some of the ones who arent paid to be here by Karl Rove are
randys1
Nov 2015
#154
I saw that--disgraceful. There's no excuse for that kind of "partisan censorship."
MADem
Nov 2015
#32
No, she posted a libelous title to an article, the same title you weren't willing post
JimDandy
Nov 2015
#124
I think you're the one who has lost the argument, and you're not dealing with it
MADem
Nov 2015
#173
Exactly, BB. Why do they find some of BS's past so distasteful they want to censor it!!?
Cha
Nov 2015
#49
It was way back when VT was shipping their shit to TX--in the 90s, when Sanders was a Rep.
MADem
Nov 2015
#37
No one took advantage of anything Vt needed to dispose of largely medical waste
azurnoir
Nov 2015
#95
You know NY literally shipped their shit to Sierra Blanca for years, by train.
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#113
Yeah, I am not feeling that "excuse" at all. Two Wrongs Makes a Right is usually abandoned in
MADem
Nov 2015
#130
The point is that this issue is being exploited by people who are so unaware of Sierra Blanca's
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#144
2 years after the Bill Clinton campaigned to be re-elected on the backs of those same
azurnoir
Nov 2015
#44
Neither did Bernie odd how Hillary's people are willing to give Texas's Republican State
azurnoir
Nov 2015
#72
yes he did the rest is extrapolation and IMO giving repukes an undeserved break
azurnoir
Nov 2015
#87
If that is your argument, then Bill Clinton apparently did not care about brown people either.
PotatoChip
Nov 2015
#188
"geology in Vermont is even less safe for storing nuclear waste than the particular area of Texas"
BlueCaliDem
Nov 2015
#140
We should not use nuclear energy because we have no place that is really safe for the waste.
JDPriestly
Nov 2015
#142
Very good post, the war hawk has to apply to Sanders since he has more than one time voted for
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#161
Interesting. I saw your post, clicked the link, logged into FB, searched the group and never found
Autumn
Nov 2015
#159
The problem is yours, I'm afraid--I just clicked a second ago, on the same link,
MADem
Nov 2015
#175
The post was shared by 4 people so yes it is still on FB. Somewhere. That post is not on
Autumn
Nov 2015
#198
So they DUMPED nuclear waste on poor brown folks? I refuse to believe Bernie would stand for that!
bravenak
Nov 2015
#2
Ironcially, New York literally dumped their poo in Sierra Blanca from 1992-2001. Trainloads of it.
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#109
It's ironic because you and others keep saying 'VT sent their shit to Texas' and 'flinging poo'
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#149
yep in 1998 2 years after Bill Clinton won re-election on the backs of the poor across the board
azurnoir
Nov 2015
#47
You'd prefer that they dump it on MILLIONS of brown, blackfolk in the northeast corridor?
Armstead
Nov 2015
#68
Look, ideally we wouldn't have nuclear fission power with all its radioactive problems
jfern
Nov 2015
#10
Sierra Blanca never saw any waste from VT, NY however sent them sewage from 92-2001 hundreds
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#143
Probably the same was true of Maine. Environment is virtually the same as Vermont.
Zing Zing Zingbah
Nov 2015
#69
You're granting the attackers a presumption of sincerity that is not justified n/t
arcane1
Nov 2015
#132
So...Sanders represented VT on nuclear waste. And Clinton represented NY on Iraq.
McCamy Taylor
Nov 2015
#52
But NYC did send tons of human waste to Sierra Blanca Texas by the trainload instead of processing
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#112
Well, no nuclear waste was ever shipped there but NYC sent human waste to Sierra Blanca by train
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#105
I Remember that! My county was one of the finalist competing for that site!
LostOne4Ever
Nov 2015
#64
We all can remember this, failing to convert even one Sanders supporter, from a couple of months
djean111
Nov 2015
#67
Bernie's fellow Vermonters, many of them, agreed with the people from TX and apologized to them.
MADem
Nov 2015
#128
I got it, Texas will ship Vermont their nuclear waste, now that would be fair.
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#164
Maybe you could sign up for some of the nuclear waste in order to support Sanders, show how it is
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#165