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In reply to the discussion: Be Afraid Republicans As Hillary Clinton Looks Like A President At Democratic Forum [View all]eomer
(3,845 posts)49. Senator Sanders giving his reasons for voting against the Iraq War authorization:
Mr. Speaker, in the brief time I have, let me give five reasons why I am opposed to giving the President a blank check to launch a unilateral invasion and occupation of Iraq and why I will vote against this resolution. One, I have not heard any estimates of how many young American men and women might die in such a war or how many tens of thousands of women and children in Iraq might also be killed. As a caring Nation, we should do everything we can to prevent the horrible suffering that a war will cause. War must be the last recourse in international relations, not the first. Second, I am deeply concerned about the precedent that a unilateral invasion of Iraq could establish in terms of international law and the role of the United Nations. If President Bush believes that the U.S. can go to war at any time against any nation, what moral or legal objection could our government raise if another country chose to do the same thing?
Third, the United States is now involved in a very difficult war against international terrorism as we learned tragically on September 11. We are opposed by Osama bin Laden and religious fanatics who are prepared to engage in a kind of warfare that we have never experienced before. I agree with Brent Scowcroft, Republican former National Security Advisor for President George Bush, Sr., who stated, ``An attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counterterrorist campaign we have undertaken.''
Fourth, at a time when this country has a $6 trillion national debt and a growing deficit, we should be clear that a war and a long-term American occupation ofIraq could be extremely expensive.
Fifth, I am concerned about the problems of so-called unintended consequences. Who will govern Iraq when Saddam Hussein is removed and what role will the U.S. play in ensuing a civil war that could develop in that country? Will moderate governments in the region who have large Islamic fundamentalist populations be overthrown and replaced by extremists? Will the bloody conflict between Israel and the Palestinian Authority be exacerbated? And these are just a few of the questions that remain unanswered.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/video/flashback-rep-bernie-sanders-opposes-iraq-war
Third, the United States is now involved in a very difficult war against international terrorism as we learned tragically on September 11. We are opposed by Osama bin Laden and religious fanatics who are prepared to engage in a kind of warfare that we have never experienced before. I agree with Brent Scowcroft, Republican former National Security Advisor for President George Bush, Sr., who stated, ``An attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counterterrorist campaign we have undertaken.''
Fourth, at a time when this country has a $6 trillion national debt and a growing deficit, we should be clear that a war and a long-term American occupation ofIraq could be extremely expensive.
Fifth, I am concerned about the problems of so-called unintended consequences. Who will govern Iraq when Saddam Hussein is removed and what role will the U.S. play in ensuing a civil war that could develop in that country? Will moderate governments in the region who have large Islamic fundamentalist populations be overthrown and replaced by extremists? Will the bloody conflict between Israel and the Palestinian Authority be exacerbated? And these are just a few of the questions that remain unanswered.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/video/flashback-rep-bernie-sanders-opposes-iraq-war
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Be Afraid Republicans As Hillary Clinton Looks Like A President At Democratic Forum [View all]
riversedge
Nov 2015
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What impressed me was how the Democratic candidates are clearly more suitable than any Repuk.
olegramps
Nov 2015
#44
Clinton reminds me so much of Obama. He must have really influenced her, as he has so many.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#4
They must be afraid she is the right candidate and a grand exit to support Hillary.
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#11
You prefer hand waving, shouting and grumpy on only one subject endlessly? No problem! Some do!
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#20
Try harder than boring? That is how I hear from Sanders, speeches requiring shouting.
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#24
My mind is quite open, I've heard her schtick many times before. Nothing new unless someone else
monmouth4
Nov 2015
#19
Sanders is a good follower, he only had a few issues when he first started running and now he has
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#26
And the hawkish president applies to Sanders who has voted several times for military action and
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#22
He has voted more time for military action than Clinton, so if we are running on records then
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#27
One example, it is his record and he has said he would take military action and use drones.
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#36
And he is far to the right on the gun issue. Are you with him on his stand?
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#51
His voting record shows differently, he has danced on this several times, he knows he has voted
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#59
Senator Sanders giving his reasons for voting against the Iraq War authorization:
eomer
Nov 2015
#49
She is more qualified than any of the presidential candidates, this makes an easy
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#10
"I want to be the president for the struggling, the striving, and the successful." God..
EndElectoral
Nov 2015
#55