2016 Postmortem

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts) Sun Nov 8, 2015, 07:26 PM Nov 2015

Sanders denies he suggested a primary challenge for Obama. Record shows he did. [View all]

George Stephanopoulos confronted Bernie Sanders on ABC’s This Week this morning over Martin O’Malley‘s attack that he was disloyal to President Obama.

During the South Carolina Democratic forum this past Friday, O’Malley touted his credentials as a lifelong Democrat who fully supported the president in 2012 before saying Sanders was trying to get someone to run against Obama.

In March 2011, Sanders said that a primary challenge to the president would “enliven” the debate on the Democratic side, and four months later he even said, “One of the reasons the president has been able to move so far to the right is that there is no primary opposition to him… I think it would be a good idea if President Obama faced some primary opposition.”

When Stephanopoulos pressed him, Sanders dismissed this as “media stuff.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/stephanopoulos-presses-sanders-for-suggesting-obama-primary-challenge-in-2012/

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Sanders denies he suggested a primary challenge for Obama. Record shows he did. [View all] wyldwolf Nov 2015 OP

So Sander lied. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #1

No lie RobertEarl Nov 2015 #13

It IS a lie. Sanders said it would be a "good idea" if Obama was primaried. pnwmom Nov 2015 #49

Funny how this, and other stories from Sanders have "evolved". George II Nov 2015 #53

You support media fluff? RobertEarl Nov 2015 #65

so, you actually heard the words come out of his mouth - hopemountain Nov 2015 #112

Here is your AUDIO and the words from Sanders.. riversedge Nov 2015 #138

lol no surprise there? 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #69

Right, because Sanders is just a pathological liar whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #100

Based upon his recent spate of lies, pathological is getting close MohRokTah Nov 2015 #101

It certainly describes whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #103

Yes, Sanders. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #105

Not really, but you are pretty habitually posting hyperbole. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #109

And Sanders LIED. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #110

He has also stood and sat! eom Gore1FL Nov 2015 #111

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Purveyor Nov 2015 #131

And obviously he was talking about himself. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #2

Was that supposed to be serious? Or was that sarcasm? (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2015 #54

Say what? bvf Nov 2015 #117

When Bernie flip flops redstateblues Nov 2015 #3

Bernie's loudest and angriest DU supporters ... JoePhilly Nov 2015 #4

Obama led us into another war. ozone_man Nov 2015 #89

Take your RW talking points to a forum where they belong. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #94

I'm glad O’Malley is in this race. Gregorian Nov 2015 #5

Why did he deny it? Simple wyldwolf Nov 2015 #10

bernie finally got a gd clue how popular President Obama and is now trying to rewrite history. Cha Nov 2015 #36

deny it? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #82

O'Malley lied. Or, okay, stretched the truth. thesquanderer Nov 2015 #72

No he didn't. Sanders did support a primary challenge. He even went to NH in 2011. askew Nov 2015 #92

Yes, he did, but for a good reason Perseus Nov 2015 #104

I assure you that this is not going to be a non-issue for AA voters in the primary. askew Nov 2015 #107

You can't be serious with point 2 mythology Nov 2015 #130

Jeez, he's shitting on Obama pretty good in that interview. What a pal!!! MADem Nov 2015 #126

OTOH, plenty here on DU were saying the same kinds of things about Obama at the time. thesquanderer Nov 2015 #142

And Bernie Is Employing That Strategy To Primary.... global1 Nov 2015 #6

When I searched for old stories fredamae Nov 2015 #7

ThinkProgress is right wing? wyldwolf Nov 2015 #9

NO, thinkprogress is not rw.. they have nothing to they try to smear "Think Progress" and BS' own Cha Nov 2015 #38

No-I had heard about fredamae Nov 2015 #55

Think Progress, from 2011, is one of the first hits in Google. wyldwolf Nov 2015 #61

Earlier I got WSJ/FOX etc... fredamae Nov 2015 #80

It took me a couple seconds to find this, from 2011, and there were many other non-RW sources. pnwmom Nov 2015 #52

That's from 2015? fredamae Nov 2015 #58

No, the Huff Post article is from 2011, as I said in the subject line. pnwmom Nov 2015 #59

You're correct-my error fredamae Nov 2015 #67

It is DUMB in the context of an incumbent President to burden him with a primary challenger. pnwmom Nov 2015 #71

It is still democracy fredamae Nov 2015 #84

I guess back then he hadn't thought of his great idea of running treestar Nov 2015 #143

But he didn't deny it...he specifically says he did it in the link you posted. bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #8

Right, keep trying to sell that recommending someone primary someone isn't opposition. stevenleser Nov 2015 #11

I support Bernie and I'm for him being primaried... bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #14

And if something happens and he gets the nomination and wins the election, he won't want that kind stevenleser Nov 2015 #22

You're free to speculate that, but I think it goes against his character. bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #25

then Bernie lied...now not then.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #26

How so? bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #33

There's a reason that Bernie is lying about his position in 2011. askew Nov 2015 #93

But he didn't lie...he said he did it... bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #97

He downplayed it and added some additional comments that weren't true. askew Nov 2015 #128

What additional comments weren't true? bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #137

Exactly. bravenak Nov 2015 #127

Dismiss the personal attacks on you, bobbobbins RobertEarl Nov 2015 #18

They never let context or nuance get in the way bvf Nov 2015 #21

Yah...that Bernie is a loyal Democrat thing....fail. Nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #12

Actually, Bernie is doing exactly the right thing for the Democratic Party. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #16

That's the difference between us, right there RobertEarl Nov 2015 #24

He is? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #28

Yeah, it's tricky shite when he does crap and then denies it on national tv 'cause he's Cha Nov 2015 #41

As of what, this morning? ucrdem Nov 2015 #75

Primary challenges enliven the base and encourage voter registration. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #15

That plan worked out pretty well for Democrats in 1980... tritsofme Nov 2015 #17

yikes! What a disaster and embarassment THAT was wyldwolf Nov 2015 #19

What happened in 1980 RobertEarl Nov 2015 #31

more of that infamous 'progressive' historical revisionism. LOL wyldwolf Nov 2015 #37

One liners is all you have? RobertEarl Nov 2015 #39

Quote ONE reference source that explains 1980 like you just did. wyldwolf Nov 2015 #42

I lived it. RobertEarl Nov 2015 #48

So did I. Funny thing is, all reference sources and history books agree with my experience wyldwolf Nov 2015 #51

Is not about did he do it....its about is he lying about it NOW! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #29

Exactly.. it's the coverup. Cha Nov 2015 #43

We tried that in 68 and 80... BklnDem75 Nov 2015 #118

When does stating a fact zalinda Nov 2015 #20

its not about THEN.....its about what he is saying about it NOW VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #46

Is Obama running for a third term? bvf Nov 2015 #119

He is saying he did not do what he clearly DID do.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #120

Oh, that didn't help at all. bvf Nov 2015 #123

Didnt help YOU.....or the guy I was addressing? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #139

I am the guy you were just addressing. bvf Nov 2015 #144

Excuse me....sorry...I had a few conversations going at the time... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #145

Okay then let me clarify for you still further.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #146

That didn't help either. bvf Nov 2015 #147

exactly...its willful... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #148

Feign what? bvf Nov 2015 #150

Exactly... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #151

Feign difficulty understanding posts bvf Nov 2015 #152

But he did support Obama in 2008 and 2012 zalinda Nov 2015 #125

But when you post UglyGreed Nov 2015 #23

LOL -- post winner here stupidicus Nov 2015 #79

Just Sayin' UglyGreed Nov 2015 #81

He actually never said this: Scootaloo Nov 2015 #27

He absolutely said it ... and here is the audio. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #66

There it is. Evidently, the video I had was edited Scootaloo Nov 2015 #76

Do you recall where the edited video came from? bvf Nov 2015 #124

and then, elleng Nov 2015 #30

Well, one thing for sure--the media will be talking about this now--not his polices. From what riversedge Nov 2015 #32

bernie's on record of saying it.. now that's he sucking up to Obama he's trying to cover it up. Cha Nov 2015 #45

bernie's trying to suck up to President Obama now. but Gov O'Malley knows better and so does anyone Cha Nov 2015 #34

You left out an important part of what Bernie said Autumn Nov 2015 #35

All you did was give Sanders' REASONING for what he said. wyldwolf Nov 2015 #44

His reasoning is a big part of what he said and his answer to Snuffleupagus was Autumn Nov 2015 #57

But he STILL said it, right? wyldwolf Nov 2015 #60

I don't see where he denied it and I don't see where he lied either Autumn Nov 2015 #70

The bottom line is the bottom line. He was advocating for someone to primary Obama. pnwmom Nov 2015 #63

A person says what they say. One sentence leads to another Autumn Nov 2015 #74

Weak. n/t (because that's all it's worth) Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #40

A lie is weak? Is it weak when it was Carson too? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #47

Hillary supporters should be the last ones talking about lies. askew Nov 2015 #95

Now that he wants to use the Democratic Party for his own gain, he's saying a number of things..... George II Nov 2015 #50

Debunked berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #56

So all these sources quoting Bernie and showing the video... all made up? wyldwolf Nov 2015 #64

"all these sources" don't make the claims you Hillary SuperFANs are... berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #78

So What If He Did - Many Have Had Enough Of the Lie Called Hope And Change cantbeserious Nov 2015 #62

He should definitely run against Obama. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #68

He's running against Obama now, actually wyldwolf Nov 2015 #73

Na, he's saying things that the perpetually disgruntled will hear as ... JoePhilly Nov 2015 #96

He Is In The Form Of HRC cantbeserious Nov 2015 #136

You Are Now Echoing Sarah Palin emulatorloo Nov 2015 #132

That Is Quite The Charge - Never Fear - One Won't Lash Out Like Some Would cantbeserious Nov 2015 #135

Perhaps You Can Market Your Own T-Shirt emulatorloo Nov 2015 #153

Hope And Change Not Working For This One cantbeserious Nov 2015 #154

Either Bernie's age is showing and he can't remember or he is lying FloridaBlues Nov 2015 #77

This is exactly what puts people off voting for Clinton Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #83

Still not seeing the issue here. Fearless Nov 2015 #85

Bernie hated BHO and tried to stab him the back, many, many times stupidicus Nov 2015 #87

Except the story is a lie. Fearless Nov 2015 #88

I know stupidicus Nov 2015 #90

yes that appears to be what largely only hateful people say stupidicus Nov 2015 #86

How dare you bring up those pesky facts iandhr Nov 2015 #91

that would be another reason to vote for , Obama has been a disaster. bowens43 Nov 2015 #98

Well here's a hill of beans that will amount to something. Aerows Nov 2015 #99

So fucking what? whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #102

no kidding glinda Nov 2015 #114

Lets never hold politicians responsible, lets always give them an automatic reelection? DJ13 Nov 2015 #106

So what? To me this does not mean he would be a bad President and I fully cstanleytech Nov 2015 #108

Who cares Dem2 Nov 2015 #113

What's wrong with you people? StoneCarver Nov 2015 #115

Let's say this is true and that Sanders lied. Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #116

bernie can try and run from this but that's not going to happen, no matter how much his fans try Cha Nov 2015 #121

i don't think he was ever really serious about wanting a Primary challenger for Obama JI7 Nov 2015 #122

Just as one cannot be slightly pregnant cosmicone Nov 2015 #129

It would have been better for Sanders just to say to George--yes I did say that... riversedge Nov 2015 #140

"We need more Butt Molehill Mountain posts STAT!" n/t Aerows Nov 2015 #133

What the hell does this have to do with running the country? pinstikfartherin Nov 2015 #134

Here are Sanders words..with audio: riversedge Nov 2015 #141

The man is in his mid-70's. Do you really expect him to have a perfect memory? Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #149