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2016 Postmortem

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stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:07 PM Nov 2015

84 days until Iowa. On this day in 2007 Obama had pulled even in Iowa. Hillary leads today by 24 [View all]

Also, Obama had much more money than Bernie does now comparatively, he had better name recognition and he had the support of a lot of members of the party, the so-called super delegates. Obama had in his campaign a lot of the folks who really understand how the Iowa caucuses work. If you don't have those folks, its very hard to compete in Iowa. Howard Dean found that out. The Iowa caucuses are a science and an art and they take many years to understand and a lot of connections in the state.

2008 Iowa Caucus polling:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_democratic_caucus-208.html#polls


2016 Iowa Caucus polling:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_democratic_presidential_caucus-3195.html

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That's inconvenient, isn't it? MineralMan Nov 2015 #1
Yep, very inconvenient for Bernistas... stevenleser Nov 2015 #4
Yes, I did see that, and defended you. MineralMan Nov 2015 #7
The Iowa caucus was almost a month earlier last time jfern Nov 2015 #2
And 84 days from now, this Iowan Skidmore Nov 2015 #3
Same here in #3 primary state SCantiGOP Nov 2015 #5
I will be donating and volunteering for azmom Nov 2015 #6
Thread title is misleading or at worse an outright lie ram2008 Nov 2015 #8
Several polls had him ahead. It depended on which poll you believed. Which to me indicates a tie. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #9
Most people go by averages. ram2008 Nov 2015 #13
In a contest like the Iowa caucuses the average doesnt mean as much. The ending result tells stevenleser Nov 2015 #15
So then what's the purpose of this thread? ram2008 Nov 2015 #20
I didn't say only the end point matters. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #27
Operation Discourage Bernie Supporters continues I see. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #10
And you can continue pushing that line for another 84 days. Time is running out. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #11
That's 3 months HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #12
Nearly, yes. And the trajectory is also all wrong. Hillary's lead is widening and the other problem stevenleser Nov 2015 #14
And would you believe Aerows Nov 2015 #21
I think Hillary's lead is as wide as it's going to get. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #23
It's relentless Aerows Nov 2015 #19
Or you can see it as "Operation GET OUT THE VOTE *NOW*". Consider it a wake-up BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #28
You are absolutely correct. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #29
It can't come soon enough for me Aerows Nov 2015 #16
It was always a long shot. That's the case with our best choices usually. Bonobo Nov 2015 #17
It's not a long shot Aerows Nov 2015 #24
She's isn't leading. Nice try though. Fearless Nov 2015 #18
The Iowa caucus is one month later this time. So, you need to be looking at October polls not askew Nov 2015 #22
October polls weren't much different. They showed a very small Hillary lead. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #26
... Fumesucker Nov 2015 #25
You must be devastated, considering what you said about Hillary in 2008. Scuba Nov 2015 #30
Misleading OP. 840high Nov 2015 #31
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