2016 Postmortem

Aerows

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99. Well here's a hill of beans that will amount to something.

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Sun Nov 8, 2015, 09:33 PM

Nov 2015

I think it might just approach the size of "Butt Molehill" Mountain.

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Sanders denies he suggested a primary challenge for Obama. Record shows he did. [View all] wyldwolf Nov 2015 OP

So Sander lied. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #1

No lie RobertEarl Nov 2015 #13

It IS a lie. Sanders said it would be a "good idea" if Obama was primaried. pnwmom Nov 2015 #49

Funny how this, and other stories from Sanders have "evolved". George II Nov 2015 #53

You support media fluff? RobertEarl Nov 2015 #65

so, you actually heard the words come out of his mouth - hopemountain Nov 2015 #112

Here is your AUDIO and the words from Sanders.. riversedge Nov 2015 #138

lol no surprise there? 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #69

Right, because Sanders is just a pathological liar whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #100

Based upon his recent spate of lies, pathological is getting close MohRokTah Nov 2015 #101

It certainly describes whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #103

Yes, Sanders. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #105

Not really, but you are pretty habitually posting hyperbole. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #109

And Sanders LIED. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #110

He has also stood and sat! eom Gore1FL Nov 2015 #111

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Purveyor Nov 2015 #131

And obviously he was talking about himself. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #2

Was that supposed to be serious? Or was that sarcasm? (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2015 #54

Say what? bvf Nov 2015 #117

When Bernie flip flops redstateblues Nov 2015 #3

Bernie's loudest and angriest DU supporters ... JoePhilly Nov 2015 #4

Obama led us into another war. ozone_man Nov 2015 #89

Take your RW talking points to a forum where they belong. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #94

I'm glad O’Malley is in this race. Gregorian Nov 2015 #5

Why did he deny it? Simple wyldwolf Nov 2015 #10

bernie finally got a gd clue how popular President Obama and is now trying to rewrite history. Cha Nov 2015 #36

deny it? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #82

O'Malley lied. Or, okay, stretched the truth. thesquanderer Nov 2015 #72

No he didn't. Sanders did support a primary challenge. He even went to NH in 2011. askew Nov 2015 #92

Yes, he did, but for a good reason Perseus Nov 2015 #104

I assure you that this is not going to be a non-issue for AA voters in the primary. askew Nov 2015 #107

You can't be serious with point 2 mythology Nov 2015 #130

Jeez, he's shitting on Obama pretty good in that interview. What a pal!!! MADem Nov 2015 #126

OTOH, plenty here on DU were saying the same kinds of things about Obama at the time. thesquanderer Nov 2015 #142

And Bernie Is Employing That Strategy To Primary.... global1 Nov 2015 #6

When I searched for old stories fredamae Nov 2015 #7

ThinkProgress is right wing? wyldwolf Nov 2015 #9

NO, thinkprogress is not rw.. they have nothing to they try to smear "Think Progress" and BS' own Cha Nov 2015 #38

No-I had heard about fredamae Nov 2015 #55

Think Progress, from 2011, is one of the first hits in Google. wyldwolf Nov 2015 #61

Earlier I got WSJ/FOX etc... fredamae Nov 2015 #80

It took me a couple seconds to find this, from 2011, and there were many other non-RW sources. pnwmom Nov 2015 #52

That's from 2015? fredamae Nov 2015 #58

No, the Huff Post article is from 2011, as I said in the subject line. pnwmom Nov 2015 #59

You're correct-my error fredamae Nov 2015 #67

It is DUMB in the context of an incumbent President to burden him with a primary challenger. pnwmom Nov 2015 #71

It is still democracy fredamae Nov 2015 #84

I guess back then he hadn't thought of his great idea of running treestar Nov 2015 #143

But he didn't deny it...he specifically says he did it in the link you posted. bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #8

Right, keep trying to sell that recommending someone primary someone isn't opposition. stevenleser Nov 2015 #11

I support Bernie and I'm for him being primaried... bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #14

And if something happens and he gets the nomination and wins the election, he won't want that kind stevenleser Nov 2015 #22

You're free to speculate that, but I think it goes against his character. bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #25

then Bernie lied...now not then.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #26

How so? bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #33

There's a reason that Bernie is lying about his position in 2011. askew Nov 2015 #93

But he didn't lie...he said he did it... bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #97

He downplayed it and added some additional comments that weren't true. askew Nov 2015 #128

What additional comments weren't true? bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #137

Exactly. bravenak Nov 2015 #127

Dismiss the personal attacks on you, bobbobbins RobertEarl Nov 2015 #18

They never let context or nuance get in the way bvf Nov 2015 #21

Yah...that Bernie is a loyal Democrat thing....fail. Nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #12

Actually, Bernie is doing exactly the right thing for the Democratic Party. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #16

That's the difference between us, right there RobertEarl Nov 2015 #24

He is? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #28

Yeah, it's tricky shite when he does crap and then denies it on national tv 'cause he's Cha Nov 2015 #41

As of what, this morning? ucrdem Nov 2015 #75

Primary challenges enliven the base and encourage voter registration. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #15

That plan worked out pretty well for Democrats in 1980... tritsofme Nov 2015 #17

yikes! What a disaster and embarassment THAT was wyldwolf Nov 2015 #19

What happened in 1980 RobertEarl Nov 2015 #31

more of that infamous 'progressive' historical revisionism. LOL wyldwolf Nov 2015 #37

One liners is all you have? RobertEarl Nov 2015 #39

Quote ONE reference source that explains 1980 like you just did. wyldwolf Nov 2015 #42

I lived it. RobertEarl Nov 2015 #48

So did I. Funny thing is, all reference sources and history books agree with my experience wyldwolf Nov 2015 #51

Is not about did he do it....its about is he lying about it NOW! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #29

Exactly.. it's the coverup. Cha Nov 2015 #43

We tried that in 68 and 80... BklnDem75 Nov 2015 #118

When does stating a fact zalinda Nov 2015 #20

its not about THEN.....its about what he is saying about it NOW VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #46

Is Obama running for a third term? bvf Nov 2015 #119

He is saying he did not do what he clearly DID do.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #120

Oh, that didn't help at all. bvf Nov 2015 #123

Didnt help YOU.....or the guy I was addressing? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #139

I am the guy you were just addressing. bvf Nov 2015 #144

Excuse me....sorry...I had a few conversations going at the time... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #145

Okay then let me clarify for you still further.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #146

That didn't help either. bvf Nov 2015 #147

exactly...its willful... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #148

Feign what? bvf Nov 2015 #150

Exactly... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #151

Feign difficulty understanding posts bvf Nov 2015 #152

But he did support Obama in 2008 and 2012 zalinda Nov 2015 #125

But when you post UglyGreed Nov 2015 #23

LOL -- post winner here stupidicus Nov 2015 #79

Just Sayin' UglyGreed Nov 2015 #81

He actually never said this: Scootaloo Nov 2015 #27

He absolutely said it ... and here is the audio. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #66

There it is. Evidently, the video I had was edited Scootaloo Nov 2015 #76

Do you recall where the edited video came from? bvf Nov 2015 #124

and then, elleng Nov 2015 #30

Well, one thing for sure--the media will be talking about this now--not his polices. From what riversedge Nov 2015 #32

bernie's on record of saying it.. now that's he sucking up to Obama he's trying to cover it up. Cha Nov 2015 #45

bernie's trying to suck up to President Obama now. but Gov O'Malley knows better and so does anyone Cha Nov 2015 #34

You left out an important part of what Bernie said Autumn Nov 2015 #35

All you did was give Sanders' REASONING for what he said. wyldwolf Nov 2015 #44

His reasoning is a big part of what he said and his answer to Snuffleupagus was Autumn Nov 2015 #57

But he STILL said it, right? wyldwolf Nov 2015 #60

I don't see where he denied it and I don't see where he lied either Autumn Nov 2015 #70

The bottom line is the bottom line. He was advocating for someone to primary Obama. pnwmom Nov 2015 #63

A person says what they say. One sentence leads to another Autumn Nov 2015 #74

Weak. n/t (because that's all it's worth) Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #40

A lie is weak? Is it weak when it was Carson too? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #47

Hillary supporters should be the last ones talking about lies. askew Nov 2015 #95

Now that he wants to use the Democratic Party for his own gain, he's saying a number of things..... George II Nov 2015 #50

Debunked berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #56

So all these sources quoting Bernie and showing the video... all made up? wyldwolf Nov 2015 #64

"all these sources" don't make the claims you Hillary SuperFANs are... berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #78

So What If He Did - Many Have Had Enough Of the Lie Called Hope And Change cantbeserious Nov 2015 #62

He should definitely run against Obama. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #68

He's running against Obama now, actually wyldwolf Nov 2015 #73

Na, he's saying things that the perpetually disgruntled will hear as ... JoePhilly Nov 2015 #96

He Is In The Form Of HRC cantbeserious Nov 2015 #136

You Are Now Echoing Sarah Palin emulatorloo Nov 2015 #132

That Is Quite The Charge - Never Fear - One Won't Lash Out Like Some Would cantbeserious Nov 2015 #135

Perhaps You Can Market Your Own T-Shirt emulatorloo Nov 2015 #153

Hope And Change Not Working For This One cantbeserious Nov 2015 #154

Either Bernie's age is showing and he can't remember or he is lying FloridaBlues Nov 2015 #77

This is exactly what puts people off voting for Clinton Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #83

Still not seeing the issue here. Fearless Nov 2015 #85

Bernie hated BHO and tried to stab him the back, many, many times stupidicus Nov 2015 #87

Except the story is a lie. Fearless Nov 2015 #88

I know stupidicus Nov 2015 #90

yes that appears to be what largely only hateful people say stupidicus Nov 2015 #86

How dare you bring up those pesky facts iandhr Nov 2015 #91

that would be another reason to vote for , Obama has been a disaster. bowens43 Nov 2015 #98

Well here's a hill of beans that will amount to something. Aerows Nov 2015 #99

So fucking what? whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #102

no kidding glinda Nov 2015 #114

Lets never hold politicians responsible, lets always give them an automatic reelection? DJ13 Nov 2015 #106

So what? To me this does not mean he would be a bad President and I fully cstanleytech Nov 2015 #108

Who cares Dem2 Nov 2015 #113

What's wrong with you people? StoneCarver Nov 2015 #115

Let's say this is true and that Sanders lied. Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #116

bernie can try and run from this but that's not going to happen, no matter how much his fans try Cha Nov 2015 #121

i don't think he was ever really serious about wanting a Primary challenger for Obama JI7 Nov 2015 #122

Just as one cannot be slightly pregnant cosmicone Nov 2015 #129

It would have been better for Sanders just to say to George--yes I did say that... riversedge Nov 2015 #140

"We need more Butt Molehill Mountain posts STAT!" n/t Aerows Nov 2015 #133

What the hell does this have to do with running the country? pinstikfartherin Nov 2015 #134

Here are Sanders words..with audio: riversedge Nov 2015 #141

The man is in his mid-70's. Do you really expect him to have a perfect memory? Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #149