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cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
64. I'm Asian and having been exposed to con games much more
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:15 PM
Nov 2015

we tend to be more attuned to go behind lofty propaganda and look at substance.

I would hypothesize that all minorities like to "see through" the rhetoric.

Hillary is a politician and she is very good at it. What you see is what you get and her flaws are open to see and well- documented.

People like me don't tend to fall for Bernie because he pretends to not being a politician but some sort of a higher power. I instantly knew that it was false and saw through the façade.

The more he was elevated by people who fell for the persona as a messiah, the more he looked like JUST ANOTHER POLITICIAN.

I have nothing against Bernie as a politician. He had to build up a base in a Hillary ocean and he found his niche of ultra left wing people - nothing wrong with that. In his shoes, I'd have probably done the same thing. It was a GOOD albeit POLITICAL move. He could have started there and built up on it ... had he continued to be a politician.

The minute he became a messiah/spiritual leader/savior/saint -- he lost me. People who are passionate about ideology and seeing the world differently, never run for political office -- because politics is about compromises and their ideology is not bargainable.

Thus Gandhi, Dalai Lama or MLK Jr. never aspired to lead the countries they worked in. They just wanted people to hear them and think for a better world. They never wanted anything other than that.

Bernie could stop running and preach exactly the same ideals and I'll respect him more. However, at the moment, HE IS JUST ANOTHER POLITICIAN WANTING VOTES AND POWER. Nothing more, nothing less. Period.

This is why Bernie cannot attract minority support. He is seen as a con man trying to deceive while wearing a saintly costume.

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #1
"race card"? Really? sufrommich Nov 2015 #2
Yes really. ThePhilosopher04 Nov 2015 #3
This is an article from The Guardian. sufrommich Nov 2015 #4
The issues? JackInGreen Nov 2015 #6
The inability to attract key demographics sufrommich Nov 2015 #9
One would think ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #14
Good point. Koinos Nov 2015 #33
Or, if you believe that self-criticism will ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #40
According to Confucius... Koinos Nov 2015 #49
And, according to LeRoy, the philosopher-Poet, ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #60
Great fun, 1StrongBlackMan! And then there's Socrates (actually Plato)... Koinos Nov 2015 #94
The why is obvious. 41% don't know who he is. Vattel Nov 2015 #45
And WHY is that? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #51
Lots of reasons, I guess. One reason is that he is new on the national scene. Vattel Nov 2015 #54
If Bernie can't attract minority voters, he wont win the nomination and Hillary will. randys1 Nov 2015 #56
I was just about to say the same thing Sheepshank Nov 2015 #19
Clinton playing the RACE CARD is the obvious ThePhilosopher04 Nov 2015 #7
While I think this is a hot topic to post here Dem2 Nov 2015 #18
Low crowd number for a Bernie rally.... riversedge Nov 2015 #37
The link between the O/P and Hillary playing the race card. Dem2 Nov 2015 #44
I need to slow down and read it better also. Have a good day. riversedge Nov 2015 #74
Clinton played the race card? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #23
You don't think the inability of Sanders to connect with minorities is an issue for him? leftofcool Nov 2015 #5
Is the the fact that an important electoral demographic does not buy what Bernie is selling hack89 Nov 2015 #10
We have discussed it ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #15
I understand Stockholm is cold this time of year hack89 Nov 2015 #32
LOL. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #41
Alert Results post #2 irisblue Nov 2015 #65
"The Guardian" are Clinton minions? Agschmid Nov 2015 #8
Pesky details.. Like with Pres Obama.. It's all Hillary's Fault! Cha Nov 2015 #38
I love that one!!! So true!! bravenak Nov 2015 #77
Yeah, somebody knew that and decided to make a graphic with Sean Bean.. lol Cha Nov 2015 #89
LOL....that's a good one. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #82
Hey Cali.. Cha Nov 2015 #90
That's gonna get a workout this year. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #83
You know it! lol Cha Nov 2015 #91
"Rory Carroll is an Irish journalist working for The Guardian...." Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #12
A statement of fact is "race card"? George II Nov 2015 #57
an article describing the demographics of his rally ecstatic Nov 2015 #61
if Clinton had any rallies they'd be just as white--early rallies favor attendees with time/energy zazen Nov 2015 #11
Really? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #17
Holy crap!!!! Sheepshank Nov 2015 #25
And juxtapose, that ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #28
it's standard demographic understanding in Dem campaigns zazen Nov 2015 #48
Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #59
Holy canoli tishaLA Nov 2015 #55
I don't think you could have written a more sufrommich Nov 2015 #24
Don't say that ... It made be seen as a challenge to try harder! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #30
yeah: me, Pew Research Center, The Atlantic (1/10/14), on participation of poor/minorities in politics zazen Nov 2015 #50
Article was well written. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #13
Recycling that race card bullshit again? 99Forever Nov 2015 #16
The Guardian "playing the race card"? sufrommich Nov 2015 #21
Was Team Bernie out in NV yesterday canassing?? The Hillary team was.. Photos.... riversedge Nov 2015 #26
OMG!!! earthside Nov 2015 #53
Chuckle. riversedge Nov 2015 #58
I really don't see how this is "playing the race card". PragmaticLiberal Nov 2015 #27
Of course you "don't see it." 99Forever Nov 2015 #31
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #34
In response to #31 ... LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #36
not really a card, just another OP, to point out- "LOOK!! Only White skinned Folks in that Crowd" Sunlei Nov 2015 #42
There is no such thing as a "race card" gollygee Nov 2015 #66
Bwahahaha... 99Forever Nov 2015 #84
And y'all continue to wonder Bobbie Jo Nov 2015 #86
I see the memo must have gone out ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #20
Yeah,it's pretty weird. And telling. nt sufrommich Nov 2015 #22
I am seeing both of those terms in the first 10 threads on DU leftofcool Nov 2015 #39
But it's purely coincidental! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #43
a better band, the "A mariachi band" was to old fashioned to draw the regular more derverse crowds Sunlei Nov 2015 #29
heaven forbid! retrowire Nov 2015 #35
This is not a surprise. People who don't know who he is won't come out to see him. Vattel Nov 2015 #46
Bernie simply does not connect with the typical minority voter. DCBob Nov 2015 #47
I don't think the Jewish part is a factor at all ecstatic Nov 2015 #71
Perhaps not but it was just part of his overall description. DCBob Nov 2015 #72
There are 50 posts in this thread. Before I look at it, I'm going to guess how many times tishaLA Nov 2015 #52
And it will stay that way HassleCat Nov 2015 #62
Oh well whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #63
I'm Asian and having been exposed to con games much more cosmicone Nov 2015 #64
That's deep. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #67
Seems like a pretty good analysis HassleCat Nov 2015 #70
Seems like a load of bullshit to me whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #75
Sanders' one event in Houston was all white also Gothmog Nov 2015 #68
I guess Bernie should carefully craft all future rallies to avoid such problems ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #69
Oh good. We're back to "Where's Waldo?" frylock Nov 2015 #73
And ... Hillary's are totally minority? Hepburn Nov 2015 #76
She has plenty of minority events. The one BLM interrupted was a black event. Hillary was the white bravenak Nov 2015 #79
One can see why that is by spending time with the 'grassroots'. bravenak Nov 2015 #78
Maybe Bernie needs to get Symone Sanders off of Facebook and out doing outreach. bravenak Nov 2015 #80
So is Hillary AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #81
The official Democratic party refuses to recognize his candidacy is the reason. They are flat out Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #85
And yet Bernie is the one supported by so many Libertarians and Republicans! Walk away Nov 2015 #87
I would divide that support up Moderate Republicans with some money support Hillary, because they Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #88
1) The Democratic Party has welcomed Sanders into the race... brooklynite Nov 2015 #93
How do they know which people are madville Nov 2015 #92
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