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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Why Most Black Voters Still Aren't Feeling Sanders [View all]Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)114. The tea party has to be crushed, in name and in intent. There is no "crossover" to gain in any
meaningful numbers from the ranks of the likes of fans of Carson and Cruz, representing half of the GOP primary voters in Iowa and NH, the same Fox and Pastor* brainwashed rural souls still with TV antennae on their roofs who picked Huckabee Who? and Santorum Who?
Even the forwarding of the rationale behind going for the RW cross over voter folk is denying those
folks who have already crossed over the bridge to mythicism are mostly incapable of crossing back.
Once Fox has worked it's way into your brain there is no going back across that bridge either.
The Day of the Triffids (Sutherland version) - remember that? This is like it is happening in real life!
*dibs on the name for a bar!
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Because you are suggesting that black voters are LESS likely to inform themselves than white voters.
pnwmom
Nov 2015
#329
Almost stunning a person could write that at all, let alone not change it after
randys1
Nov 2015
#129
You should answer, really you should. I am not even sure what meme you are talking about
randys1
Nov 2015
#219
I've really tried to stay out of this ... as insulting as the poster has been; but, ...
1StrongBlackMan
Nov 2015
#241
And the person truly, sincerely does not know what is wrong with what they wrote
randys1
Nov 2015
#131
You are either knowingly continuing to insult Black people or you are just not
randys1
Nov 2015
#136
Yes, too many of them can't help themselves when it comes to Insulting the African American
Cha
Nov 2015
#280
They might not like his views on gun control, because black people and hispanics
pnwmom
Nov 2015
#152
No, of course not -- which proves my point. He gets much higher approval numbers from whites,
pnwmom
Nov 2015
#235
Right, pnwmom.. those who tout "Name Recogition" are being insulting to the African American
Cha
Nov 2015
#325
Yep ... They met here on DU and bonded over their mutual distain for that Black President. n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Nov 2015
#244
He would hang with more black people in real life, but, you know, they don't do enough research
Squinch
Nov 2015
#245
"...the intense pressure of his grassroot on our community, kills his chances..." -- what?
Fast Walker 52
Nov 2015
#58
could you be more specific about the intense pressure AAs are getting from Bernie's people?
Fast Walker 52
Nov 2015
#69
She does. Way better chance. And she is inclusive. Making attempts at INTERSECTIONALITY.
bravenak
Nov 2015
#188
I guess your question points to, yet, another thing PoC and women have noticed that ...
1StrongBlackMan
Nov 2015
#336
See point #2 in the linked article: Clinton is far more upbeat and engaging - Sanders is depressing.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#8
If Sanders can do anything at all to get out the youth vote, more so the black youth vote,more power
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#16
I am hoping for a change in Ferguson, MO. They could have 100% black government if they
LiberalArkie
Nov 2015
#84
No, you or I wouldnt understand why they wont vote. But if you listen to them they will
randys1
Nov 2015
#135
I almost understood it in s Arkansas, as the deputies that collected the ballot boxes in the black
LiberalArkie
Nov 2015
#144
So - It All Comes Down To Not Liking His Style - No Correlation To Substance - How Sad
cantbeserious
Nov 2015
#113
Read the whole article, it is not condescending. It is good campaign advice he would be wise to
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#118
He does, no argument with me there, he brings the passion....when he called out Trump for
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#145
You really should read the linked article. It is good advice and not condescending at all.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#18
You really should use your skill against real racists instead of targeting socialists. n/t
fasttense
Nov 2015
#65
That poster seems to have inferred your Welfare tag on his post is implying he is racist. n/t
JimDandy
Nov 2015
#81
Yes, you know them? The ones who call themselves RepupubliCONS and KKK members?
fasttense
Nov 2015
#88
Socialists? Nah, mostly folks who want to see some change, but they arent socialists
randys1
Nov 2015
#139
"Triangulation"? When exactly was the last time she or anyone else not on DU ever used that term?
Hekate
Nov 2015
#158
Wow. You really wrote that. And then you hit the button so everyone could read it.
Squinch
Nov 2015
#242
The article was written to explain why black voters are having trouble warming up to Bernie Sanders.
Baitball Blogger
Nov 2015
#337
My response was to the post in which fasttense said that black people should like
Squinch
Nov 2015
#339
If Hillary resorts to the same Thirdway method as her husband, I imagine
Baitball Blogger
Nov 2015
#343
A person's past record and political beliefs are valid points to consider.
Baitball Blogger
Nov 2015
#345
Bush didn't have any effect on how local governments awarded contracts either. This is nutty.
Squinch
Nov 2015
#351
But they can influence where there is going to be a watershed of Federal money.
Baitball Blogger
Nov 2015
#353
And you think Bernie's going to tell local governments how to award their contracts if he's elected?
Squinch
Nov 2015
#355
My concern is based on observations I made during the nineties in the triangulation era.
Baitball Blogger
Nov 2015
#356
And you have the right to say that the president has something to do with how your
Squinch
Nov 2015
#359
I never said he or she could award municipal contracts. That is your interpretation.
Baitball Blogger
Nov 2015
#360
I agree with that. Sanders has been angry about the right things for a long time, but that message,
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#32
Listening is an underrated skill and a tough one to perfect. Clinton listens and is flexible as she
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#103
The tea party has to be crushed, in name and in intent. There is no "crossover" to gain in any
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#114
The word "angry" was used to portray Bernie in a negative way, which I thought was ironic. n/t
Dawgs
Nov 2015
#40
I would not say "problems", more a lack of appreciation why the Clintons are appreciated.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#25
I don't believe Bernie or his supporters want to hear (or believe) these things.
NurseJackie
Nov 2015
#17
More inviting is a great way to put it! My pet peeve is that Feel The Bern is not exactly inviting.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#34
Kinda scary in a way. I actually was a burn victim as a child. Went to the same doctor as Michael
bravenak
Nov 2015
#35
And he will miss a significant segment of the Democratic base that have other priorities ...
1StrongBlackMan
Nov 2015
#260
The AA vote is really where the always-on conspiracy mindset has backfired dramatically.
NuclearDem
Nov 2015
#48
LOL. As always, our most conservative white posters speak for the AA community! nt
Romulox
Nov 2015
#50
The mindset that anything inconvenient for Sanders is the result of a conspiracy.
NuclearDem
Nov 2015
#73
Not to mention the relentless bashing of all things President Obama...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#238
I wonder if white folks could ever possibly imagine why a Black person would think this way
randys1
Nov 2015
#147
To me it seems 1) humility and 2) tone are very important to older AA voters
LettuceSea
Nov 2015
#71
It's generational, too. I don't mind enthusiasm, but I've earned my gray hairs ....
Hekate
Nov 2015
#96
so an obscure guy appears suddenly out nowhere and demands people vote for him. worth a try nt
msongs
Nov 2015
#93
Bravenak, you once explained it parsimoniously: The reason is Bill and Barack.
aikoaiko
Nov 2015
#101
no that much is true and Bernie would have to be something different than what he is
azurnoir
Nov 2015
#108
I do not think he see's the need for the overarching positivity displayed by those reverends.
bravenak
Nov 2015
#170
IKR. Some random person on the internet vs. all the blacks that I communicate with on a daily
Hiraeth
Nov 2015
#140
yet you chose to interact with DUers all day, every day without dismissing their opinions....
bettyellen
Nov 2015
#249
So, most of the POC here have a hidden agenda, compared to your real life. Interesting.
bettyellen
Nov 2015
#322
Like I said ......... that kind of hate for someone who did nothing to you is just, gross. nt.
polly7
Nov 2015
#320
Boy, for a relatively small Black Woman (as in physical size) you sure do cause a ruckus!
randys1
Nov 2015
#202
A good TV show like the new Netflix comedy starring Aziz Ansari "Master of None"
randys1
Nov 2015
#205
If you try to make sense of such comments, bravenak, it is never worth the time.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#243
Rarely do I see you speechless... so I feel I must have hit a nerve and
Bread and Circus
Nov 2015
#278
See your mind is made up and you indicate the "Black Vote" has already been determined...
Bread and Circus
Nov 2015
#289
Most does not equal all. He can still get the 'not most' group. He shoud try.
bravenak
Nov 2015
#300
Test some of the ideas out with fellow supporters. I know you meet away rrom here.
bravenak
Nov 2015
#305
Pretty much. It is what it is at this point. Getting mad won't help at all.nt
bravenak
Nov 2015
#267
The Obama coalition was Progressive Whites (i.e. Bernie Supporters) and Blacks
Bread and Circus
Nov 2015
#281
I am saying Obama's 2008 coalition and Hillary Clinton's coalition now is not the same thing.
Bread and Circus
Nov 2015
#293