2016 Postmortem

leftofcool

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14. Well, "other" things are so I guess this is as well.

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Salon: "Hillary Not Electable in General Campaign" [View all] berni_mccoy Nov 2015 OP

H.A. Goodman!!! BootinUp Nov 2015 #1

You mean, for shits and giggles. DinahMoeHum Nov 2015 #109

With the bashing of Hillary here we are helping the GOP have a clean sweep in 2016. The GOP is kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #155

Too many on our side have a severe case of I call. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2015 #182

Great post! One of the 99 Nov 2015 #183

+1000 heaven05 Nov 2015 #189

PLEASE consider making this an OP. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #201

that's very good renate Nov 2015 #227

Spot-on LW1977 Nov 2015 #226

I think her 'inevitability' run up to announcing and the annointing roguevalley Nov 2015 #129

Thats ok BootinUp Nov 2015 #158

I really care, jkbRN Nov 2015 #212

Thats good to know! Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #224

An important question is how is Bernie going to win without the support of the minorities. olegramps Nov 2015 #194

I've been told here BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #203

Do you seriously think POC will vote for TRUMP over Bernie? Child PLEASE Vincardog Nov 2015 #221

Please reread what I wrote. They may not show up to vote. Period. olegramps Nov 2015 #232

Right they would rather stand in line for hours to vote for the candidate that helped push 3 strike Vincardog Nov 2015 #233

I have absolutely no problem with his civil rights record. olegramps Nov 2015 #235

I am sure he will overcome any perceived lack of favor. I don't worry about specious claims. Vincardog Nov 2015 #236

Ad hominem. No meaningful respone on the merits of the issue leveymg Nov 2015 #160

Waste of time. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #161

I've been saying this for months. eom Purveyor Nov 2015 #2

Many people have. Aerows Nov 2015 #7

I fear 2016 is going to be a fucking train wreck straight down Purveyor Nov 2015 #22

She is absolutely going to be a train wreck Aerows Nov 2015 #95

Amen Hepburn Nov 2015 #62

Wait. What? abelenkpe Nov 2015 #152

So have I. She's had high negatives among Indys since '08 leveymg Nov 2015 #163

Bernie cannot win the primary at the rate he is polling. bravenak Nov 2015 #3

THe article linked promotes the idea of NOT voting for Hillary randys1 Nov 2015 #6

Is that allowed? bravenak Nov 2015 #9

Wasn't that the sort of thing that got a long time DUer banned? eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #13

That one was worse, I think. bravenak Nov 2015 #17

The title of the linked article is just as bad. Eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #24

this is analysis, not advocacy restorefreedom Nov 2015 #26

The linked article is advocacy. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #28

i disagree. i think it walks a line, but restorefreedom Nov 2015 #36

We'll just have to wait until the Admins weigh in, then. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #43

yup. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #121

Guess we have our answer then berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #173

Repeatedly brushing off Plucketeer Nov 2015 #222

Its not a fine line when people keep shoveling the SOS from this moron.... Historic NY Nov 2015 #130

people are capable of thinking for themselves restorefreedom Nov 2015 #133

Well, "other" things are so I guess this is as well. leftofcool Nov 2015 #14

Many 'other' things. bravenak Nov 2015 #19

"Other" things... berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #29

And it is just sad leftofcool Nov 2015 #44

Only for the special people here, sis. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #82

Salon is and always has been an allowed source here. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #149

The article shows why Dems should vote for Bernie in the primary. And Goodman says why merrily Nov 2015 #102

Merrily I will vote for her in the general if I have too madokie Nov 2015 #135

I could not agree more madokie--but keep that to yourself. merrily Nov 2015 #137

its ironic isnt it? restorefreedom Nov 2015 #23

This election breaks traditional thinking because it is anti establishment berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #41

yes, and it is so amazing to watch. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #42

Right up until we lose the White House... Chan790 Nov 2015 #101

sadly i can find no fault restorefreedom Nov 2015 #123

What a stupid insulting post redstateblues Nov 2015 #213

Exactly! ozone_man Nov 2015 #142

In Vermont, 25% of registered Republicans vote for him as well. merrily Nov 2015 #153

I have seen that here ozone_man Nov 2015 #166

Look at me, trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs. Sorry! merrily Nov 2015 #167

Polls dont win elections... votes do. Bubzer Nov 2015 #195

The endless attacks are something to behold. I have to give it to Karl, he has orchestrated randys1 Nov 2015 #4

What attacks? berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #11

Oh my randys1 Nov 2015 #18

That's the authors opinion which I didn't quote berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #25

IT says she is not electable? If it says that, then it is even worse rightwing bullshit randys1 Nov 2015 #27

The article uses facts to support the claim. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #30

so who is claiming she is NOT electable? YOU or the article, using those exact words? randys1 Nov 2015 #33

The facts show it. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #34

So it is you, and no the facts dont show any such thing, but more importantly is your randys1 Nov 2015 #35

Oh my. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #38

No, I am upset that you are on Democratic Underground promoting the idea that our randys1 Nov 2015 #45

I'm reporting facts, plain and simple. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #46

Oh wait, now you are changing what you are saying, how about revising the thread title then randys1 Nov 2015 #50

Nope. Still reporting facts there too berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #54

No, nothing factual about yout comment, but you know that. What your comment is randys1 Nov 2015 #58

Do you attack Clinton supporters when they say the same jwirr Nov 2015 #89

That he cant win, I will and have whenever I see it. randys1 Nov 2015 #90

I actually think that this "s/he can't win" meme is dangerous jwirr Nov 2015 #97

Is it OK when Hillary does it? Ino Nov 2015 #180

Not that I've noticed--and he claims to be a supporter of and worker for Sanders. merrily Nov 2015 #98

I think you reported not only the facts, but also the conclusion you came to based on Cal33 Nov 2015 #112

Only in your bernie bubble. riversedge Nov 2015 #52

Hillary fans are losing their minds over the very polls berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #55

Your comment is LITERALLY doing the work for the GOP, LITERALLY randys1 Nov 2015 #60

How about voting for Sanders? That's what is also said in the post. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #64

Not the point. Just say this, say "you know what, you are right" randys1 Nov 2015 #67

And that's the problem ibegurpard Nov 2015 #71

Another poster on DU saying the leading candidate cant win. You cant do that here. randys1 Nov 2015 #72

read the polls in the article ibegurpard Nov 2015 #73

GOP steals elections by convincing people their vote doesnt count or matter. randys1 Nov 2015 #74

If she has electability problems, it's far better to ventilate that before the primary. merrily Nov 2015 #147

"You can't do that here".... TommyCelt Nov 2015 #199

What you wrote above "Only in your bernie bubble" is also stating your opinion based Cal33 Nov 2015 #118

"our candidate"? don't you mean your candidate? Hint: the Primary isn't over quite yet. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #78

NOBODY should be saying that ANY of our candidates cant win. Period randys1 Nov 2015 #85

Please wait until she is the nominee... Paka Nov 2015 #139

You're kidding, right Lordquinton Nov 2015 #207

Unaware of what, that Hillary cant win the election? Is that what you mean? randys1 Nov 2015 #215

That you lambaste Bernie supporters for calling Hillary unelectible Lordquinton Nov 2015 #219

Are you commenting on an article you didn't fucking read? Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #106

Oh i read it, and the NOT ELECTABLE wasnt in it, which is why I pointed that out over randys1 Nov 2015 #108

The assertion is there. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #111

Yes, and ALL the more reason the article shouldnt even be here. randys1 Nov 2015 #113

. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #116

And the article linked said HILLARY CANT WIN, might as well be Free Republic randys1 Nov 2015 #120

But it wasn't. It was from "progressive" Salon. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #122

Why are you trying to elect Ben Carson? Fuddnik Nov 2015 #124

Nice try, but it is well known here that I support the Democratic candidate. randys1 Nov 2015 #126

This was PM'd to me and I'd like to share it: marble falls Nov 2015 #191

I am afraid Clinton did this all to herself. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #192

Ditto! George II Nov 2015 #196

Bernie Not Even Electable In Primary. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #5

Maybe not, but the GOP agenda is to destroy Hillary before we find out who is electable. randys1 Nov 2015 #21

Exactly. Sanders has been spared the GOP onslaught up to now, while Hillary has been viciously hit. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #63

I think the GOP is deliberately avoiding mentioning Bernie in order to help keep his Cal33 Nov 2015 #138

If the GOP is afraid of Bernie, why are they attacking Hillary and donating to Bernie? SunSeeker Nov 2015 #174

Priebus probably has some trick up his sleeve with an ulterior motive, I guess. Sanders has stated Cal33 Nov 2015 #204

Well.....then if that's true and Bernie loses to someone who can't win the general Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #8

Nope. Bernie polls better against the repubs because he doesn't act like one berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #10

If Bernie is so great... Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #12

Don't worry.. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #15

Huh? OilemFirchen Nov 2015 #117

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #205

No. Apply logic before you post. merrily Nov 2015 #56

GOP nominee, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #66

Nope. Try again. merrily Nov 2015 #69

... Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #70

As a dispassionate observer I am compelled to admit none of the points you made... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #84

:) Babel_17 Nov 2015 #186

Richard Nixon Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #16

Incomparable elections. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #20

I don't think that we know this, yet. Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #107

Nixon had a 55.8% favorability rating in his first term. jeff47 Nov 2015 #39

Yes, people thought that Nixon was a executive Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #105

"Not like" would not give him that high a favorability rating. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #171

No but a look at the Dems running against him is interesting. zeemike Nov 2015 #154

+1 How soon some forget. kristopher Nov 2015 #200

Results of your Jury Service -- 3-4 to LEAVE IT. nashville_brook Nov 2015 #31

Alert fail. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #37

Yeah but compare juror 2 to juror 6. Too close. Catherina Nov 2015 #49

Dishonest alerting is prevalent in GDP this election cycle berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #53

I was Juror #5, you can thank me later. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #75

Thanks. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #172

No kidding. But that's ok, we're gonna win despite the little tricks n/t Catherina Nov 2015 #103

i was 6 -- i believe this was a dishonest alert, and anyone *should* be able to see that nashville_brook Nov 2015 #91

I came across this juror comment yesterday. Puglover Nov 2015 #188

I'll bet you 100:1 that they are given the partisanship n/t Catherina Nov 2015 #198

wow d_r Nov 2015 #47

Trusting the prosecution. Total fail n/t Catherina Nov 2015 #51

juror #2 ibegurpard Nov 2015 #57

Totally agree Hepburn Nov 2015 #81

Some juror should alert on these results. Juror 2 should not sit on juries if he or she is not merrily Nov 2015 #61

Pretty pathetic to constantly try to get people banned. bunnies Nov 2015 #77

Holy Shit! TM99 Nov 2015 #104

And the Thought-less Police fail again Android3.14 Nov 2015 #140

lol juror number two. Doctor_J Nov 2015 #177

"I didn't read it" "I don't care what the issues are" "I don't want to debate, I want to talk about MisterP Nov 2015 #209

I guess I can't post my opinion of Goodman.... Adrahil Nov 2015 #32

You got alerted on for criticizing an professional author who is not a DUer? Seems implausible. merrily Nov 2015 #80

You can check out my transparency page. See for yourself. Adrahil Nov 2015 #87

Your transparency is not available to DUers other than yourself right now. merrily Nov 2015 #92

I did not know that! Adrahil Nov 2015 #93

Here ya go. Adrahil Nov 2015 #94

I am going to guess you should have used a name. I would never have hidden any criticism of a merrily Nov 2015 #96

I appreciate the advice. I will. But i know another reason.... Adrahil Nov 2015 #99

You're welcome. merrily Nov 2015 #100

I'm becoming a big fan of yours FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #131

Thanks! Let's elope. merrily Nov 2015 #134

LOL FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #141

What happens on the message board, stays on the message board. merrily Nov 2015 #144

You are a great asset to Bernie. FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #146

Whew. So many compliments! I usually hear that stuff only merrily Nov 2015 #151

If the party wants to win, they will back the candidate who has enough crossover appeal sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #40

May I also add that, IMHO, Clinton will not bring out gobs of certain Nay Nov 2015 #214

Oh yes he will, he has already! He's FURTHER ahead in bringing out those who had given up on the sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #217

Lordy lordy. H. A Goodman moves his pile of poop from Huff post to Salon. riversedge Nov 2015 #48

More ridiculous source shaming. You named two liberal sources. Your real complaint is anything merrily Nov 2015 #65

Not slamming the source but vile stupid Goodman!! riversedge Nov 2015 #79

Who has been published by 2 liberal sites. Sticking with your issue seems to be criticism of HRC. merrily Nov 2015 #83

They both do their share of Hit pieces on Hillary. But as I said, I was not dissing the riversedge Nov 2015 #88

You're saying anything the least bit critical of Hillary... paleotn Nov 2015 #136

What kind of IDIOT gets BANNED from REDDIT! ROFL!!!! MADem Nov 2015 #170

She will decimate us in Montana ibegurpard Nov 2015 #59

People in general are NOT neutral on Hillary Hepburn Nov 2015 #68

I see you understand just humbled_opinion Nov 2015 #114

" O K " DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #76

. stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #86

Totally agree with OP humbled_opinion Nov 2015 #110

K & R AzDar Nov 2015 #115

I WILL vote for the democrat in the elections. Period. As I write this I'm having a major argument.. BlueJazz Nov 2015 #119

The %'s looked pretty favorable for Hillary in spite of how the author was spinning them The_Casual_Observer Nov 2015 #125

The general is a long way off but the polling Hillary VS Crazy Republicans worries me. hollowdweller Nov 2015 #127

Can you imagine having Hillary lose to Trump? Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #128

Except Trump will eventually implode.... Historic NY Nov 2015 #132

You're probably right. After all, Hillary's done that too. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #148

She is leading Trump with a 15 point margin in case you did know..... Historic NY Nov 2015 #168

It's still early. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #169

How does this H.A. Goodman get his articles published?!? Does he pay for them? I honestly don't get Metric System Nov 2015 #143

Cough*Cough*Cough*Cough*Cough* in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #145

Well said MissDeeds Nov 2015 #210

What a load sharp_stick Nov 2015 #150

No news here...she will never be president. It's not going to happen. bowens43 Nov 2015 #156

That's exactly what I see happening, sadly. closeupready Nov 2015 #216

This is what I have been saying all along emsimon33 Nov 2015 #157

H.A. Goodman just repackages the same material over and over oberliner Nov 2015 #159

Goodman. LOL...nt SidDithers Nov 2015 #162

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #164

Why am I not surprised? Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #165

one negative for Clinton due to Sanders campaign is that a lot of people Doctor_J Nov 2015 #175

Are we still fixed on the idea that Trump will be the Republican nominee? RandySF Nov 2015 #176

"Because there's not a dime's worth of difference between Al Gore and George Bush" greenman3610 Nov 2015 #178

Hillary will be our next President no matter what you do or say. onehandle Nov 2015 #179

Lol berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #181

wow... Hepburn Nov 2015 #190

Letting H.A. Goodman blog at Salon lowers my opinion of Salon considerably. DanTex Nov 2015 #184

Well, electability is an important issue Babel_17 Nov 2015 #185

Ok. n/t JTFrog Nov 2015 #187

the one on one debates will change that... lame54 Nov 2015 #193

A cinderblock could out-debate any Republican. randome Nov 2015 #208

And if neither Trump nor Sanders get the nomination? George II Nov 2015 #197

Yea yea yea Sanders will not be the DNC nominee and the best candidate is Hillary Clinton over any Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #202

The replies on that website... BklnDem75 Nov 2015 #206

Hillary did not lose in 2008 by being any worse than Obama . . . Utopian Leftist Nov 2015 #211

Sheesh, is everyone in this thread so hung up on bashing skepticscott Nov 2015 #218

This is the worthless opinion of H.A. Goodman, a Rand Paul 2016 supporter who likes to pose pnwmom Nov 2015 #220

Wonder if Plucketeer Nov 2015 #223

I think the Hillary people are counting on the GOP candidate being horrible, and he will be Fast Walker 52 Nov 2015 #225

Which is a fucking stupid strategy ibegurpard Nov 2015 #228

that is indeed a serious worry Fast Walker 52 Nov 2015 #231

I think that it's a bit early yet for predictions like this Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2015 #229

The longer this goes on, the more I'm convinced of this AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #230

That's why they are trying to stop him he is the obvious winner sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #234

Hillary will never be our President madokie Nov 2015 #237

The Third Wayers would rather lose with Hillary than win with Bernie. Romulox Nov 2015 #238