Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

PatrickforO

(14,604 posts)
9. Yeah, I didn't see that other one...
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:37 PM
Nov 2015

Now that I think about it, I SHOULD have done the right thing, just like Bernie did when he declined to attack Clinton on her emails

My reply title should have read:

Gore declines to endorse any candidate at this time.

Because, you know, it's kinda a meaningless article anyway. He's not going to do anything for some time, if at all. Now, Bernie is closer to his positions on global warming, but the Clintons are mighty powerful and if you piss them off, mighty punishing. People who endorsed Obama back in 08 found that out sometimes to the loss of an election.

It's sad, I think, seeing all the negative back and forth. Now, I'm a Bernie supporter to the max, on the issues. So when I post I really do try and just confine myself to the issues. But that is hard because there are some hard core Clinton surrogates on this site (and plenty elsewhere) who are busy driving some serious wedges into the campaign. This because I suspect Clinton cares a bit more about getting elected than she does about doing the right thing once elected. She's just not a stateswoman, for that reason.

But these wedge issues - Bernie has a race problem with AAs, Bernie has a race problem with Hispanics, Bernie isn't electable, Bernie supporters are so horrible, terrible, awful that they are driving people away. Then today I saw a post with Che Guevara wearing a Bernie tee shirt that said this is exactly the message Bernie needs or something to that effect. Anything to drive people like cattle away from discussing actual issues. You know, wedge issues.

To my thinking, having worked for Obama in 08 and supporting Bernie now, Clinton tries to stay clean, have 'plausible denyability' for stuff, but she programs her surrogates to attack viciously. We saw this again and again and again in 08 and we're seeing it now. The Clintons play to win and do not care how ugly it gets.

Anyway, should have done the right thing here. Kinda sorry, but kinda not. Because I'm not going to let opponents play out of the Books of Rove and Atwater and not fight back.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Al Gore declines to endor...»Reply #9