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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:09 PM Nov 2015

Beware of "Hillary not electable" pieces written by supporters of Rand Paul and other Rethugs, [View all]

Last edited Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:55 PM - Edit history (1)

like H. A. Goodman.

H. A. Goodman is a Rand Paul supporter who poses as a "liberal Democrat." And he says that if you're worried about Rand Paul's economic policies, you shouldn't, because Congress can rein him in.

Yeah, right.

Paul, who considers himself a tea party member, opposes abortion, opposes Federal LGBT rights (because he didn’t “believe in rights based on your behavior”), voted against the Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act, opposes all gun control legislation, thinks vaccines should be voluntary, opposes the ACA, opposes campaign finance reform. Among other things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Rand_Paul



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/im-a-liberal-democrat-im_b_6169542.html

Rand Paul is my candidate in 2016, even though the Tea Party would consider me Joseph Stalin's love child. I'm for immigration reform and believe that illegal immigrants benefit this country. I've written many articles criticizing Tea Party paranoia. I'm against demagoguery from people like Paul Ryan who unfairly target inner city citizens and I'm for the federal legalization of gay marriage and marijuana. I think Ted Cruz is a buffoon and that we should listen to Stephen Hawking over Senator "Green Eggs and Ham" on climate change. Finally, I've also written two novels about the evils of religious fundamentalism and political demagoguery.

On all these possible points of contention with Rand Paul, the reality is that he isn't Ted Cruz or Lou Dobbs on these matters. Sen. Paul is a self-described "moderate" on immigration, much to the dismay of Tea Party Republicans. Paul's recent Bill Maher interview shows he's open to cleaner energy alternatives. Most importantly, Paul doesn't abide by the right-wing rhetoric blaming poor people for their predicament, or claiming God wants people to do this or that. Congress at the end of the day has the power of the purse, so if President Rand Paul scares you on economic matters, simply remember that only Congress can repeal or alter government programs and decide on budgets.

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Are you suggesting Mr. Goodman is not a sagacious prognosticator? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #1
Not a word about the substance or merits of his argument. A POV that needs to be discussed leveymg Nov 2015 #62
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #99
You're going off on an anti-Right Libertarian tangent and not addressing the point that Goodman made leveymg Dec 2015 #100
I'd give him a bit more credit than that. Rogue Democrat Nov 2015 #2
It shows what poor judgment Goodman has. He said that we could disregard Paul's economic policies pnwmom Nov 2015 #3
How would Mr. Goodman ignore Rand Paul's judicial picks? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #7
He's a pundiut. He's paid to provoke....And much of it I agree with Armstead Nov 2015 #60
With all due respect I am not a fan of his punditry... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #69
I don't read him much Armstead Nov 2015 #71
Bayless hates LeBron James and it blinds him to his obvious strengths. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #73
Er, about all I know about basketball is that people try to throw a basket through a hoop Armstead Nov 2015 #77
How about movies? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #78
Oh Rexster? Now I get your point. Armstead Nov 2015 #82
He hated Meryl Streep for some reason. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #83
He's a troll and his "works" are banned from the Sanders Reddit group! MADem Nov 2015 #80
What do you like about Hillary's war policies? I realize that you agree with her disregard for JDPriestly Nov 2015 #85
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #98
"I've been a registered Democrat all my life (voting for Gore, Kerry, and Obama twice)" think Nov 2015 #5
Clearly a Paulist acolyte. Didn't even vote for Nader, ffs. merrily Nov 2015 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #97
Then debunk him in a reply instead of shooting the messenger pinebox Nov 2015 #4
I can debunk him in any way I choose. But in this case he debunked himself, pnwmom Nov 2015 #6
FAIL. You've attacked the messenger without addressing the message. winter is coming Nov 2015 #8
How about this for a debunking: JaneyVee Nov 2015 #13
That doesn't change Hillary's unfavorables, either. winter is coming Nov 2015 #16
That doesn't debunk anything, actually. beerandjesus Nov 2015 #32
That poll was revealed last night in the recap of the repugs debate brush Nov 2015 #46
And back at ya pinebox Nov 2015 #40
And neither Trump, Bush, or Bernie will be the nominee. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #43
And either will Hillary XD pinebox Nov 2015 #55
I did address the message. He is WRONG to say Paul's economic policies don't matter pnwmom Nov 2015 #24
No. You're trying to use his opinions about Paul's economic policies to winter is coming Nov 2015 #28
They show his poor judgment in the political arena. pnwmom Nov 2015 #34
It shows his poor judgement about economic policies. winter is coming Nov 2015 #36
And economic policies are at the core of Sanders candidacy -- as they should be. pnwmom Nov 2015 #39
Interesting OP, PNWMom. Thanks. Hortensis Nov 2015 #44
Which has absolutely nothing to do with Hillary's unfavorables, winter is coming Nov 2015 #45
It has everything to do with Goodman's worthless opinions on her "electability." pnwmom Nov 2015 #52
Is Paul even running anymore? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #30
FOREIGN POLICY....How about addressing the author's actul points? Armstead Nov 2015 #64
PFF to unfavorables. She is winning the polls over Sanders by large percentages. riversedge Nov 2015 #86
So let me get this straight about judgement pinebox Nov 2015 #10
Once again, a female with an opinion is accused of "shouting." pnwmom Nov 2015 #22
You dont even display your gender in your profile yet you accuse others of sexism. bunnies Nov 2015 #48
I do in my screen name. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #50
Like Middle Finger Mom did? nt bunnies Nov 2015 #51
I didn't realize that he wasn't female for a very long time. pnwmom Nov 2015 #53
I didnt realize it either... bunnies Nov 2015 #54
And as I said about judgement pinebox Nov 2015 #41
I'm supporting whichever Dem wins the nomination. pnwmom Nov 2015 #42
That's like debunking Cheney Blue_Adept Nov 2015 #12
Comparing Goodman to Cheney is absolutely absurd jkbRN Nov 2015 #25
+1000 MissDeeds Nov 2015 #72
It is silly, of course. OilemFirchen Nov 2015 #87
Speakin' truth! jkbRN Nov 2015 #20
And meanwhile, we wait and wait for one factual reason to vote FOR Hillary beerandjesus Nov 2015 #27
These are the same people that have no issue with David Brock or his past. frylock Nov 2015 #79
Or a certain FOX News regular Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #96
Paulites. That's it. It's really not many promoting it though. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #9
Common. Freaking. Sense. Blue_Adept Nov 2015 #11
Just earlier there was a piece saying: "If Bernie is so good,... Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #14
This isn't a conspiracy theory, unless you think Goodman can conspire with himself. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #18
Is your misinterpretation of my words deliberate, Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #23
You must have "intimated a conspiracy of one" because I certainly didn't, pnwmom Nov 2015 #26
But you are suggesting that very intimation, are you not? Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #33
If it makes you feel better, it's not just your words. beerandjesus Nov 2015 #29
It's your kind reaction that makes me feel better. Thanks. eom Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #31
I'm not misinterpreting his very clear words. You are just intent on disregarding them. nt pnwmom Nov 2015 #37
Well, you haven't debunked anything but your own credibility. beerandjesus Nov 2015 #38
Sorry, but WTH? Why waste time with all these posts on Rand Paul? brush Nov 2015 #49
I think you have missed both the point and the counterpoint of this discussion. eom Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #58
I got them both but got tired of post after post about an Ayn Rand-loving, racist repug brush Nov 2015 #90
We were discussing the merits of his opinions. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #94
I'll know better next time . . . brush Nov 2015 #95
more whistling past the graveyard ibegurpard Nov 2015 #15
Yup. I refuse to listen to why a Paul-bot doesn't support Hillary Clinton. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #19
I ignore basically everything libertarians say mythology Nov 2015 #17
I agree. Fuck Rand Paul. n/t FSogol Nov 2015 #35
Even legalizing marijuana? NobodyHere Nov 2015 #57
So I guess you disagreed with Ron Paul about Iraq then? Armstead Nov 2015 #68
I remember a bunch of people cheering on DU Mnpaul Nov 2015 #89
On civil liberties and some social issues Libertarians are good. stillwaiting Nov 2015 #81
If I was a RW, I would listen to FOX and try to sell their lies everywhere. I am not RW ergo I do Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #47
Are you implying that Rand Paul has supporters? NobodyHere Nov 2015 #56
then stop pushing candidates who support policies of Rethugs MisterP Nov 2015 #59
Let me put my two cents in here . . . Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #61
I agree with 1 and 2. But unfortunately, I'm afraid that any Rethug who is the nominee pnwmom Nov 2015 #65
Well, true, I'm discounting that kind of steer manure Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #74
I vote for Swashbuckler! passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #70
I'd tell him you have his support . . . Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #75
Sounds about right passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #88
Are the "scientific" polls lying now too?? Fearless Nov 2015 #63
We seem to have a nest of them here. Amaaaazing. nt Hekate Nov 2015 #66
Threads by Bernie supporters bashing Hillary are getting old LW1977 Nov 2015 #67
DU rec... SidDithers Nov 2015 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author smiley Nov 2015 #84
KICK! Cha Nov 2015 #91
Thanks, Cha! pnwmom Nov 2015 #92
You're Welcome.. thank you again! Cha Nov 2015 #93
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