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In reply to the discussion: Please, Democrats: Don’t Attack Bernie Sanders for Joining Your Party - Joan Walsh [View all]blackspade
(10,056 posts)263. Who are "they"?
The PM of Denmark? The center right guy?
Of course he is going to say that his country is not 'socialist.'
So what countries are socialist then based on your rubric?
To answer your question: Democracy in the workplace, worker cooperatives, post-Capitalism.
But, to be pragmatic, I'll settle for increased socialism, single payer healthcare, paid family leave, strong unions, reinstatement of Glass-Stegal, etc.
So there you have it. Now maybe you will answer the following questions:
What is the alternative to our broken economic and social system?
What is your problem with socialism?
I think a little research is in your future if you want to continue this conversation.
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Please, Democrats: Don’t Attack Bernie Sanders for Joining Your Party - Joan Walsh [View all]
tishaLA
Nov 2015
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Hillary Wants to Help Families at the Bottom. So Will She Change Her Mind About Welfare Reform
UglyGreed
Nov 2015
#8
Yes when they don't have anything to offer just make shit up, works for FOX.
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#170
Hillary's a social liberal. On foreign policy and Wall Street she's a conservative....
raindaddy
Nov 2015
#137
I gave a number of examples.. Again, can you name one "liberal" in the history of the party
raindaddy
Nov 2015
#148
Barack Obama's not a liberal and I don't believe he made over three million $$ in one year...
raindaddy
Nov 2015
#232
But Govtrack has her about in the same place. In fact the same place as Teddy Kennedy.
LiberalArkie
Nov 2015
#15
You guys are hilarious, posting a chart with everyone in one corner
ConservativeDemocrat
Nov 2015
#60
That non-American methodology for arriving at a point on a graph is based on a test that none of the
MADem
Nov 2015
#88
The opposite actually, what is worthless is allowing someone to control the methodology
Dragonfli
Nov 2015
#146
You do realize that ON THE ISSUES does this very thing? With better input, that they display for
MADem
Nov 2015
#154
I wonder where Sanders would be in this graph, which seems more accurate to me than the other.
PatrickforO
Nov 2015
#136
Do YOU have all of the data that builds that? Because I CAN show it for mine...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#31
That is what I said. I never said she was. Her score is right with Teddy Kennedy. So however anyone
LiberalArkie
Nov 2015
#38
Okay...I thought you were supporting the meme that she is a Neocon as some here propose..
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#42
Our party is open to anyone. If anyone has a problem with that they need to
roguevalley
Nov 2015
#73
Yep....meaning to all who read it...he WASN'T one before....just as I ALWAYS contended on DU
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#128
And I am not even buying that at all. Maybe for the votes taking place in 2001 but not today.
LiberalArkie
Nov 2015
#47
That period of time was a very bad time. You damned if you voted in any direction. The majority
LiberalArkie
Nov 2015
#54
And as everyone could guess without even looking. I am not even going to say who this is.
LiberalArkie
Nov 2015
#32
Except when it came to the Iraq. War. Except for her approval of the TPP until it was no longer in
secondwind
Nov 2015
#83
Yes again....please show your insightful refutation of the evidence it represents...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#160
I guess that is why Bernie voted with the Republicans all the time as he wasn't really a Democrat?
LiberalArkie
Nov 2015
#3
Since both are "hard core liberal", guess this means either Hillary is not a republican as said
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#46
who ever said Sanders is a Republican...even I would attack that ridiculous statement
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#48
No, Clinton is call a republican more than once, if Clinton is a republican then Sanders is also.
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#51
I knew you were just fishing for some more smart conversation with a lady!
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#250
It never does. I generally favor the most liberal who is usually the underdog in the races. If
LiberalArkie
Nov 2015
#11
When he signed the dotted line in New Hampshire that REQUIRES you BE a Democrat to be on the ballot
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#90
Yes...that is where I learned that you cannot just spout opinions....you have to show evidence....
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#123
You didn't support your accusation that Bernie Sanders became a democrat when it became expedient.
pangaia
Nov 2015
#155
He only did it because his campaign was doomed otherwise....it was done...toast
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#109
Clintonites would prefer Bernie had run as a Democratic Socialist, so we'd have a President Trump.
in_cog_ni_to
Nov 2015
#129
Why don't you message his campaign that he really ought to run as an independent in the GE? n/t
eridani
Nov 2015
#189
Who gives a shit? He can call himself a member of the Sons of the Desert for all I care
Armstead
Nov 2015
#180
He is twice the Democrat that Clinton is. Democrats are progressive. Conservatives that
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#182
Yes. He said he wouldn't before bc it would make him a "hypocrite". BS's own words.
Cha
Nov 2015
#190
Those who criticize Nader (or Bernie) as spoilers should advocate Instant Runoff Voting....
cascadiance
Nov 2015
#6
Nope. I'm more than willing to dump Bernie to keep the kook GOP divided
ConservativeDemocrat
Nov 2015
#61
So evidently you LIKE the corporate interests buying BOTH of our two major parties...
cascadiance
Nov 2015
#63
Duh? Don't attack anyone for not running as a spoiler. Or, if you do, at least be consistent and
merrily
Nov 2015
#29
No threat-it's just when a party gets too out of touch with the people someone new steps up.
jalan48
Nov 2015
#68
Apparently since MOST Democrats support Clinton not Sanders.....she is not the one "out of touch"
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#69
if they can't keep any dissenting murmur out of the party, they'll at least rope it off
MisterP
Nov 2015
#70
The Democratic Party INVITED him to join the fray--and they did so for a clear reason.
MADem
Nov 2015
#82
Indeedy...and he was escorted into his NH filing by DNC members who made sure it was clear that
MADem
Nov 2015
#111
All you do is attack Democratic posters here, Democratic candidates you don't like, all with a
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#165
Again....he said he is.....in PUBLIC. He signed that dotted line in New Hampshire too...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#139
After 40 yrs of disparaging them and proudly declaring "you are NOT a Democrat"
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#158
This is an anti-establishment election and she is the choice of the establishment.
Spitfire of ATJ
Nov 2015
#227
Not according to 45 members of the Democratic Progressive Caucus including John Lewis
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#228
Nobody seemed to hate him very much when he was our tiebreaking vote in the senate.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2015
#272
Saying that "inevitability" is a lame thing to run on, doesn't mean she doesnt have good odds of
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2015
#199
How would I know...other than the fact that you DID support a Non-Democrat...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#214
I want to know when someone's gonna show up to tell me I 'got my ass handed to me'
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2015
#245
We should THANK Bernie Sanders for stitching together the broken fabric of our party...
MrMickeysMom
Nov 2015
#255