2016 Postmortem

green917

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103. so, one has to hold

Reply to JoePhilly (Reply #41)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:16 AM

Nov 2015

$33,000 a plate fund raisers to help other democrats? And people wonder why the electorate is apathetic!

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When you can't even afford a dinner with a candidate, it's unlikely your interests take top priority [View all] reformist2 Nov 2015 OP

When you can't continue to have your taxes raised, then the candidate proposing the increase Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #1

That explains you. azmom Nov 2015 #4

If you are referring to the payroll tax increase to fund universal healthcare, I am for it JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #6

He has said he was going to tax the rich, he missed on this one, the rich has capital gains, Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #8

You didn't address any of the substance of my post w.r.t total cost vs tax cost JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #11

Income tax is on income, as a worker who is compensated for the work they do. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #12

I am well aware of the US Tax code. You don't need to inform me of that every post JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #16

Again, capital gains, interest, dividends and royalties are not wages. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #20

I Know! I know! JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #22

Then you know the 1% is not going to be paying the tax Sanders is proposing. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #24

Not that specific tax, no. They'll be paying their taxes for other programs JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #25

Jt may come as a shock but taxing every thing is not a winning agenda. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #27

An unwillingness to engage on the high cost of healthcare and how Sanders plan fixes that? JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #28

But you won't have to pay for health care or insurance so the tax will be cheaper. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #30

I get health insurance through my employer. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #34

Then they won't have to pay it and can pay you more. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #104

I think it is also selfish to tax the working people to pay for others. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #112

That is not selfish that is humane. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #113

So? Tax 'em at least as much as wages. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #36

But the taxes collected floriduck Nov 2015 #31

I have thought in complete terms, I still know how to think in complete terms. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #35

Then you have completely floriduck Nov 2015 #47

Taxing, taxing, taxing is not a winning agenda. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #61

So post it Old Codger Nov 2015 #49

Well, I can currently afford it. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #33

In this case the corporations will not be paying more and it will not affect the 1% since they Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #53

So tax those at the rate, at least, of wages. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #54

Well, work to help change the system moobu2 Nov 2015 #2

I'm supporting the candidate who's not playing the big money game - Bernie! reformist2 Nov 2015 #14

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I wouldn't call his behavior "passive." nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Nov 2015 #56

Well, I might reply, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #57

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We'll cross the R money machine when we come to it. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #65

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I find your tone quite condescending, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #82

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I don't find it "disagreeable." SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Nov 2015 #97

Exactly. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #98

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OK, I'll leave it at I don't like you, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #105

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LOL!.... Plucketeer Nov 2015 #26

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When Sanders starts holding his DNC fundraisers, will you say the same thing? MADem Nov 2015 #5

That's a splash of cold water on this OP. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #10

you can make this supposition green917 Nov 2015 #29

Bingo. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #38

Yea, why would we expect Sanders to help other Dems, right?? JoePhilly Nov 2015 #41

Oh Lord. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #45

Is that what Bernie is doing? JoePhilly Nov 2015 #46

Well, I would frankly prefer SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #48

so, one has to hold green917 Nov 2015 #103

If it helps our candidates raise money ... sure. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #107

no reply huh? UglyGreed Nov 2015 #43

Who the heck are you talking to? You're addressing the person who ASKED the question. MADem Nov 2015 #67

. UglyGreed Nov 2015 #100

sorry for the late reply but. .. green917 Nov 2015 #102

I must of just missed you since UglyGreed Nov 2015 #110

no worries green917 Nov 2015 #114

No problem UglyGreed Nov 2015 #115

Of course he's going to do it--he didn't sign a pact with Debbie Wasserman Shultz to frontline MADem Nov 2015 #66

If he has to, he has to. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #75

Well, he signed a formal pact with Debbie Wasserman Schultz. MADem Nov 2015 #78

Based on the information I currently possess, I trust Bernie's judgment. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #83

I, along with my spouse once paid $100 each to meet and greet with Howard Dean, pennylane100 Nov 2015 #7

Is it fair to say successful politicians edgineered Nov 2015 #9

Good point. I think good politicians are often good actors, to some degree. reformist2 Nov 2015 #15

So now we know. The optics are terrible edgineered Nov 2015 #19

Of course, and there's nothing wrong with that, in moderation. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #39

c.u MUST be overturned. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #13

Essential. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #40

Most people on our side agree--but it ain't gonna happen this election cycle. MADem Nov 2015 #68

i think the masses are getting fed up restorefreedom Nov 2015 #70

Well, if he has to I'll go along. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #73

Well... SoapBox Nov 2015 #17

She's not the only one, but yeah.... nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #42

hey, corporate alliances, poll-massagers ("poll-masseurs"?), journalist-ropers, bused-in crowds, MisterP Nov 2015 #18

poll-masseurs, lol! reformist2 Nov 2015 #23

"massagers" - lol love it 840high Nov 2015 #32

The point of it is not dinner but raising money JI7 Nov 2015 #44

DUH! SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #50

that's the system we have JI7 Nov 2015 #51

Let us try to change it, then. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #52

How do you propose to do that without raising money? ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #60

Raising money in a different way, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #63

what different way ? JI7 Nov 2015 #76

Coming pretty close to Hillary's numbers through small donations, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #79

BTW, this was kind of an insulting post. That's why I said "DUH." nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #74

It's there before our Democratic Eyes! Yet..... KoKo Nov 2015 #55

Isn't that the unvarnished TRUTH! pacalo Nov 2015 #58

Oh dear .... ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #59

She mixes with the commoners..... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #62

These dinners--that Sanders will be doing, too--are not "mixing with the commoners" events. MADem Nov 2015 #69

That's why it's in a "ballroom". Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #71

The 1% needs a lot of elbow room. Hepburn Nov 2015 #81

I'll bet everyone gets a Grip and Grin pic. MADem Nov 2015 #87

I take a dim view of people to whom a grip and grin pic means so much. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #111

This is a very interesting discussion. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #72

He probably is reluctant, but he'll get better at it the more he does it. MADem Nov 2015 #88

Yeah. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #89

We need to get a Congress full of our guys, who will vote that crap out! MADem Nov 2015 #90

Exactly. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #91

It's kind of weird that we have to USE CU to get rid of CU, but that's what we have to do. MADem Nov 2015 #93

"Publicly funded elections are the way to go, I think." SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #94

Try it in real time: "These dinners--That Sanders HAS NOT DONE,--" cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #85

DUH--he signed the agreement LAST WEEK. LAST WEEK. And he has a debate (that he's flailing at) MADem Nov 2015 #86

Fund raising dinners, are meant to raise funds. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #80

And down-ticket Democrats okasha Nov 2015 #84

I don't mind siphoning money from the rich. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #92

Bubububububut she just said "most" of her donors were small. Or was it individuals? glinda Nov 2015 #101

In a non-corrupt nation with an actual democracy... 99Forever Nov 2015 #108

Absolutely. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #109