2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Why I don't Trust Hillary Clinton! [View all]cascadiance
(19,537 posts)As the person who CREATED this program said if you read my post, we should be moving back to just trying to streamline green cards instead of this program having all of these different loopholes that has let it be scammed for so many years. When you have a corrupt government enabled by big money buying off politicians who are cozy to corporate entities like Wall Street, you just know that there is going to be fraud ALL OF THE TIME in this program.
Hillary clinton supported expanding this adamantly in 2008, if you've read any of the posts here as she is quoted here in the last election. With about a 20 year history of fraud in that program at that point, you'd think that Hillary would EITHER have the intelligence to see this fraud and not want it, or have the ethics to note that this fraudulent behavior is only serving the wealthy, which some argue she is there to help support.
I would challenge those who say this program has EVER functioned effectively to be more of what it was originally set up for versus the abused fashion that has it being used more to exploit cheap "indentured servant" labor.
And as this DKOS article and others have noted, Hillary Clinton in addition to along with her husband supporting free trade bills in the past like NAFTA, were also beholden to a lot of campaign contributions from Indian companies that profiteer from H-1B program exploitation, which many of us conclude explains her "strong support" for these programs not the FABRICATED MYTH that this program helps the American work force.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/04/06/476588/-Beyond-NAFTA-Misrepresentations-Hillary-and-those-H-1b-Visas
Quoting the Washington Post there:
When Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton flew to New Delhi to meet with Indian business leaders in 2005, she offered a blunt assessment of the loss of American jobs across the Pacific. "There is no way to legislate against reality," she declared. "Outsourcing will continue. . . . We are not against all outsourcing; we are not in favor of putting up fences."
Two years later, as a Democratic presidential hopeful, Clinton struck a different tone when she told students in New Hampshire that she hated "seeing U.S. telemarketing jobs done in remote locations far, far from our shores."
The two speeches delivered continents apart highlight the delicate balance the senator from New York, a dedicated free-trader, is seeking to maintain as she courts two competing constituencies: wealthy Indian immigrants who have pledged to donate and raise as much as $5 million for her 2008 campaign and powerful American labor unions that are crucial to any Democratic primary victory.
Despite aggressive courtship by Democratic candidates, major unions such as the AFL-CIO, the Teamsters and the Service Employees International Union have withheld their endorsements as they scrutinize the candidates' records and solicit views on a variety of issues.
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If the fraud can't be taken out of such a program in its over 20 years of existence which has been pretty persistent throughout its history, then legislators that support American workers, like the congressman I noted that originally put it in to law said, we should END this program and find other means that are less fraught with fraud and work more for works worldwide than the wealthy the way these guest worker programs do. Congress has had over 20 years to fix it, and it is obvious that big money won't let them do it. So it should be SHUT DOWN and kept out of any immigration bill where possible, so that far more of us can help work hard the next time a real good and CLEAN bill that doesn't have any NON-Immigration garbage like these TEMPORARY "guest worker" programs in it, to get it to pass, and help with the so many immigration problems we have now, without supporting legislation that will continue to destroy our own lives.