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bravenak

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34. They expressed hostility for months. They still call us uninformed voters and express outrage at our
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:43 PM
Nov 2015

decision not to support Bernie. Just because they see it as nothing does not mean that black people who were targeted or support BLM see it as nothing. Just because you think it is stupid to vote based off of how you are treated by a group rather than pure policy does not make it so. Just because you think you are smarter, does not make it so. It is not just on the internet. I know for fact they send letters. I got one in my mailbox. Some people are so sure that they are right that they do not care how they behave in their quest to get what they want. Many have not shown that they are allies of Blacks that I have seen in this entire cycle. From expressing support for comments by Cornel West, comments like calling Obama 'niggerized', to calling the black community uninformed, labeling us as SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS in a derisive way, harassing our protestors like BLM, harassing John Lewis for endorsing Hillary, creating terms like race nagger to attack us with, and then pretending nothing is wrong with it, WITH ANY OF IT, I just do not see that as our ally. Now those same loud few are just accusing us of pulling the race card whenever we point out this foul behaiviour. The rest ignore it mostly and expect us to fight their peers alone wile they get to be innocent. How is that an ally, again? An ally would tell their fellow supporters to stfu if they get out of line and weed out the bad actors and point out the trolls themselves rather than expecting an oppressed minority to ignore even MORE RACIST crap, to favor their candidate.

He has no foreign policy and has Peter Principled out of this race with his inept handling in bravenak Nov 2015 #1
Sanders supporters kick ass... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #3
He will never be president. bravenak Nov 2015 #5
I don't understand how people can support Clinton... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #7
I can discuss it with you at length if you want. bravenak Nov 2015 #8
I really do want to know... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #9
I am black. bravenak Nov 2015 #15
Thanks very much for this bravenak... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #41
Here are a few. Read the replies. bravenak Nov 2015 #47
OK... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #52
The candidate is silent. If he wanted to do something, a Sistah Soldjah moment would have been it. bravenak Nov 2015 #55
Just wondering, does Clinton have a Sistah Soldjah movement? TheProgressive Nov 2015 #58
She can Cha Cha slide her way into the whitehouse if that's what you mean. bravenak Nov 2015 #60
I think I made the typo...however TheProgressive Nov 2015 #66
Cool. See ya around! bravenak Nov 2015 #69
She had to get rid of Ferraro in 08 and distance herself. It barely helped but we remember her bravenak Nov 2015 #63
his are fighting .... us. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #73
Very absurd to me too. bravenak Nov 2015 #74
i had a chat with one of those people on the twitter afterwards redruddyred Feb 2016 #80
Internal scarring. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #17
I know you have it too. bravenak Nov 2015 #21
Yes ~ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #23
I know. bravenak Nov 2015 #25
;) sheshe2 Nov 2015 #30
Hillary Clinton will not be elected President INdemo Nov 2015 #71
And Bernie cannot even get the nomination. bravenak Nov 2015 #72
True secretary of states are not typically presidents yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #54
On the other hand... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #61
It is his Foreign Policies that drew me to him in the first place. HE has the BEST FP for this sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #67
Foreign policy is my biggest reason for voting against Hillary Clinton. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #12
Social justice issues and hostility towards black folks from certain groups is why I vote HILLARY. bravenak Nov 2015 #16
Bernie is not hostile towards blacks, and he is much better than Hillary on social justice issues. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #20
Quite a few who say they support him are very hostile. It reflects back on him when he says NOTHING. bravenak Nov 2015 #22
The only thing Hillary is better at in that regard is political calculation Martin Eden Nov 2015 #26
With all due respect. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #33
They expressed hostility for months. They still call us uninformed voters and express outrage at our bravenak Nov 2015 #34
None of which has anything to do with the actual candidates and their policies ... Martin Eden Nov 2015 #43
It shows how responsive the candidate is to the concerns of actual black people. bravenak Nov 2015 #48
Are you referring to Bernie Sanders? Martin Eden Nov 2015 #53
He has said nothing this cycle about the stuff coming out of his grassroots. bravenak Nov 2015 #57
Bernie Sanders is a real fighter for racial justice, in both word and deed. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #64
Black people are the real fighters in word and deed. We fight it everyday all day, no vacations. bravenak Nov 2015 #68
True ... Martin Eden Nov 2015 #75
Black people will decide who is best. That is what people do not get. bravenak Nov 2015 #78
Everybody decides who is best, in their own way. Each of us has that right. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #79
Sanders has voted more times for military action than Hillary, ergo he is more of a hawk than Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #24
Bernie more of a hawk? That's nonsense and you know it. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #28
If Clinton is a hawk for voting for IWR, Sanders has voted more times for military action, then the Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #32
Sanders voted AGAINST both Gulf wars. You have your "facts" wrong. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #36
No I don't, I know Clinton's record, do you know Sanders record? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #38
Yes. I just stated his voting record. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #40
Maybe further review of his voting record will reveal other times he has voted for military action. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #42
I'll take his anti-Iraq War vote as evidence of Bernie being very smart and informed on Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #49
I'll take his vote FOR MASS INCARCERATION as an example of his not understanding bravenak Nov 2015 #50
I responded to your comment about foreign policy. I'll take a pass on the topic move. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #51
I know you will. Everyone has nothing to say about it as they tell me he is awesome for black folks. bravenak Nov 2015 #59
He displayed a lack of knowledge of foreign affairs, it showed in the debate, since we live in a Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #2
+1 sheshe2 Nov 2015 #13
Really? His dodgeball on immigration was like watching Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #4
+1 sheshe2 Nov 2015 #14
25 years voting & paying for foreign policy as Senator and Representative. VERY knowledgeable. senz Nov 2015 #6
And thoughts on this? Rose Siding Nov 2015 #19
Maybe because he's actually still doing his job in the Senate, while running for winter is coming Nov 2015 #27
I forgot to count that in. Yes, he's still working -- on top of everything else! senz Nov 2015 #31
He's not a pampered princess with scores of assistants senz Nov 2015 #29
part of what you say is probably true drray23 Nov 2015 #37
He has plenty of eager volunteers and knows how to delegate. senz Nov 2015 #45
Obama, also not a "pampered princess" took 5 days Rose Siding Nov 2015 #46
I have always been an Obama supporter, so don't pit him against Bernie. senz Nov 2015 #62
K&R nenagh Nov 2015 #10
K&R nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #11
No doubt. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #18
To me the $12 minimum wage is NOT enough. It should have been $12, when it was raised 8 years ago. Sunlei Nov 2015 #35
I guess that's why he's losing so badly in every poll moobu2 Nov 2015 #39
Nice smear on Hillary MaggieD Nov 2015 #44
You are one of the SmittynMo Nov 2015 #56
"Forget public service"?? Gman Nov 2015 #65
80% of the young people stayed home the last time.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #70
And with each debate, Clinton widens her lead Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #76
"Voters become disenchanted with the political system because of people like Hillary Clinton." Scuba Nov 2015 #77
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