2016 Postmortem

Hortensis

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83. It'll never be over, tho, right? It may be something else -- maybe

Wed Nov 25, 2015, 02:51 PM

Nov 2015

could never vote for someone from Wisconsin, but that's part of human nature -- some are genetically loaded with strong doses of antagonism to what is seen as different. All we can do is try to tamp it down. Regarding that last, like you I do think environmental factors are "maturing." We may be only averaging 687 steps forward for 686 steps back, but it's progress.

Regarding southern, I was fascinated to learn that people and societies in hotter climates average more conservative than in cooler around the planet, not just in our country. Something to do with societal survival in challenging conditions. I know many of my fellow Southerners would not be happy to have their conservatism described as having a common root with that of North Africa and the Middle East, but so it is.

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Would you vote for Hillary if Trump was the Republican nominee? [View all] CreekDog Nov 2015 OP

I would vote for Hillary if she is the nominee. This should be a no brainer here. Mass Nov 2015 #1

No brainer is right...but luckily we'll be voting for Bernie, who would trounce tRump in a general election. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #3

Currently 14 DU posters have no brain, then. nt. MH1 Nov 2015 #70

That's a fair assessment. okasha Nov 2015 #133

I have a brain. I live in NY. pangaia Nov 2015 #135

Regardless of who the GOP nominee is, I'll be voting for Hillary, MineralMan Nov 2015 #2

Voting is a private matter tularetom Nov 2015 #4

That's not what you said in July when I asked the same question CreekDog Nov 2015 #30

Ask it again next July and you'll get the same answer you got today tularetom Nov 2015 #31

And apparently I'm the only DUer not allowed to change their mind. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #48

I am astonished rogerashton Nov 2015 #5

I'm not. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #17

It's up to 5 now. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #27

Anti-Hillarys likely include DU's anti-Democrats, anti-liberal far left, Hortensis Nov 2015 #36

They aren't leftists BainsBane Nov 2015 #56

Well, remember, anti-liberal leftists are extremists, and Hortensis Nov 2015 #68

I think (I hope) that not voting for Obama was a more southern thing. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #77

It'll never be over, tho, right? It may be something else -- maybe Hortensis Nov 2015 #83

It may be that in the warmer climates it is possible to grow your own food etc. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #84

I bet those have something to do with it, yes. Hortensis Nov 2015 #85

don't forget that most people live in urban areas CreekDog Nov 2015 #95

Which is why I voted "yes"... Chan790 Nov 2015 #105

Such a view completely ignores issues and policy BainsBane Nov 2015 #111

You'd prefer I didn't vote for her? Chan790 Nov 2015 #114

You may need some sweet honey riversedge Nov 2015 #120

They probably don't even vote anyway so it doesn't matter snooper2 Nov 2015 #40

So true. Some are paid to play Socialist Warrior on the intertubes. And some are fervent volunteers. yardwork Nov 2015 #108

How does a person get one of those Paying Socialist Warrior on the intertubes jobs? 99Forever Nov 2015 #112

I wouldn't know, and I'm a gal, not a guy. yardwork Nov 2015 #113

You're the one making the accusation. 99Forever Nov 2015 #116

Why are you taking such a general observation so personally? yardwork Nov 2015 #117

You made a SPECIFIC accusation. 99Forever Nov 2015 #118

I'm sorry that my post upset you. It was not directed at you or any specific poster. yardwork Nov 2015 #122

It was directed at Sanders supporters. I am one. 99Forever Nov 2015 #127

Actually, it wasn't directed at Sanders supporters. yardwork Nov 2015 #130

Oh please. 99Forever Nov 2015 #131

If my posts are going to upset you this much, putting me on ignore us a good idea. yardwork Nov 2015 #134

+10000000000000000000 CreekDog Nov 2015 #121

Thanks, Creekdog. yardwork Nov 2015 #123

I am okay in general and glad you posted. Happy Thanksgiving! CreekDog Nov 2015 #126

A lot of right wingers flooded DU in recent years. yardwork Nov 2015 #132

I'm not. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #57

often a luxury of white, male or economic privilege CreekDog Nov 2015 #60

Shhh. We're not allowed to point that out. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #62

Anyone upper class has absolutely nothing to worry about if it is Trump vs Hillary davidn3600 Nov 2015 #106

Did you ever read a story by Edgar Allen Poe called "The Masque of the Red Death"? yardwork Nov 2015 #109

When it comes to their positions concerning Wall Street...they are the same davidn3600 Nov 2015 #110

She'll do a lot better than any Republican. yardwork Nov 2015 #115

It's a childish temper tantrum. n/t Lil Missy Nov 2015 #81

Desperation shows why not ask HRC vs Atila the Hun? Would you vote for her then? Vote no get banned Vincardog Nov 2015 #6

I wouldn't vote for either of them. My ballot comes with other choices. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #7

I'll be voting for the Democratic nominee no matter what William769 Nov 2015 #8

I'm with you there CreekDog Nov 2015 #75

well said. riversedge Nov 2015 #87

And Trump would have his jackboots kill a lot of us. Really. n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #90

Another Democrat for the Democratic nominee! NastyRiffraff Nov 2015 #9

A thought experiment. randome Nov 2015 #10

Heh artislife Nov 2015 #13

Well, I'm no connoisseur but I like the Founder's Favorite waffle bowl! randome Nov 2015 #15

I can respect that! artislife Nov 2015 #18

How about if Jesus Christ came down land ran would upaloopa Nov 2015 #29

If it was between giving up my own life to worship someone's father under threat of torture... randome Nov 2015 #35

That's about the only situation in which I would vote Green for President. I hope others would too. stevenleser Nov 2015 #49

Sanders supporter here. Sometimes, as adults, we must vote KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #11

So Clinton is an "evil"...just not as bad? brooklynite Nov 2015 #14

Clinton is a capitalist, Trump a fascist. I am a KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #98

UNREC brooklynite Nov 2015 #12

You're just not polarised enough! randome Nov 2015 #16

In the scenario set out, if BS was nominated, it'd be just as wrong to not vote for him. Too bad freshwest Nov 2015 #91

You mean I can't vote more than once? Alfresco Nov 2015 #19

No bigwillq Nov 2015 #20

Even then, your vote can add to what is hoped to be a loud repudiation of the GOP. randome Nov 2015 #22

So your form of integrity is to let others vote for her so you don't have to CreekDog Nov 2015 #76

Standing up by sitting down. randome Nov 2015 #80

Once Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary moobu2 Nov 2015 #21

I wouldn't be so sure about that dlwickham Nov 2015 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author MoonRiver Nov 2015 #44

i do not think that is a safe assumptiom restorefreedom Nov 2015 #46

Which means they don't understand how the American electoral system works. MH1 Nov 2015 #71

most states are solidly red or blue restorefreedom Nov 2015 #72

No, I'll be voting for the Democratic nominee. (nt) Ino Nov 2015 #23

I would vote for Jim Webb if Trump was the nominee Bucky Nov 2015 #24

I'll vote Green before I cast a 5th consecutive "hostage vote." dogknob Nov 2015 #25

Nunya. 99Forever Nov 2015 #28

Understood. (I saw a copy of the advisory memo too.) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #34

I will gladly vote for any of the three Democratic candidates wins the nomination mythology Nov 2015 #32

Absolutely. I'd vote for Rex the Wonder Dog rather than any of the GOPukes n/t mikehiggins Nov 2015 #33

Where's the option for "not this shit again"? n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #37

Nope pinebox Nov 2015 #38

A better choice for the voters wold be for Hillary INdemo Nov 2015 #39

its hypothetical so i hypothetically voted no SwampG8r Nov 2015 #41

A lot of Trump supporters on DU Renew Deal Nov 2015 #42

Bottom line n/t MoonRiver Nov 2015 #43

No one answered they would vote for Trump Reter Nov 2015 #54

That IS voting for Trump BainsBane Nov 2015 #55

No it does not Reter Nov 2015 #79

It's a trap! AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #45

That's Awesome TheFarseer Nov 2015 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Nov 2015 #47

What a horrible choice. Two authoritarians. senz Nov 2015 #50

ONLY if she is the ONLY choice Politicalboi Nov 2015 #51

I will for any Democratic nominee for President. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #52

Clearly for some, the well being of the nation pales in comparison BainsBane Nov 2015 #53

Seems like almost everyone saying they won't vote for Hillary are men CreekDog Nov 2015 #59

The "no" responses Jamaal510 Nov 2015 #58

no it tells us nothing demwing Nov 2015 #65

I didn't say anything about feeling guilty CreekDog Nov 2015 #74

You didn't have to - it's that transparant demwing Nov 2015 #82

No, you're responsible for your own feelings CreekDog Nov 2015 #92

Of course I am, which is why your Guilt Poll fails demwing Nov 2015 #93

Yep. All of what you wrote. Nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #66

I agree. They don't belong on DEMOCRATIC Underground and should be put out of their misery. n/t Lil Missy Nov 2015 #136

Well at least 88% of us have a god damn brain in our head, lol. phleshdef Nov 2015 #63

Dumb poll. demosincebirth Nov 2015 #64

Typical CD poll pintobean Nov 2015 #67

what is wrong with asking? CreekDog Nov 2015 #69

The focus isn't on you CD, for most of us, it's about our country. Good polling question. n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #89

A simple no-bullshit poll? joshcryer Nov 2015 #102

I see 14 people so far that don't belong on DU. JTFrog Nov 2015 #73

Well, as flypaper, this poll works very well. MineralMan Nov 2015 #78

You're saying that in GD-P it is wrong to ask if people on DU will vote for the frontrunner CreekDog Nov 2015 #99

Be very, very quiet! Romulox Nov 2015 #86

yes Matthew28 Nov 2015 #88

Still nunya. 99Forever Nov 2015 #94

nunya AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #97

Exactly. 99Forever Nov 2015 #100

Happy Thanksgiving. AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #137

The fact we could have an election of Hillary Clinton vs Donald Trump.... davidn3600 Nov 2015 #96

Its rather pathetic, isn't it. RiverLover Nov 2015 #101

So it was your turn to post this poll today Kalidurga Nov 2015 #103

Today is Thursday, I posted the poll on Tuesday CreekDog Nov 2015 #138

It's Thanksgiving try to be happy. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #139

Grudgingly. Chan790 Nov 2015 #104

Sounds like someone is making a list Android3.14 Nov 2015 #107

Nice conspiracy theory, there are no lists CreekDog Nov 2015 #129

The Democratic Party seems to no longer represents me, by pushing the ultimate corporate candidate RiverLover Nov 2015 #119

Hillary has more support than Sanders at this point, period CreekDog Nov 2015 #124

Hillary's record indicates that she is a strong progressive. yardwork Nov 2015 #125

No contest. IN A HEARTBEAT. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #128