2016 Postmortem

elleng

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5. She's not, of course, 'our only chance.'

Tue Dec 1, 2015, 02:12 AM

Dec 2015

There is a candidate who can attract support from left AND right, due to excellent and lengthy executive experience, strong policies, and many written plans to implement his policies.

O'Malley's Plans:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12813600

As to 'everybody hates,' it's clearly not so; I have many friends (NOT DUers) who support her strongly, many of them strong Democrats. With support from the Democratic party, any repug can be defeated.

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Everybody HATES Hillary. [View all] Cassiopeia Dec 2015 OP

She has a better chance than a 75 year old self described doc03 Dec 2015 #1

Wrong. elleng Dec 2015 #6

...... Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #10

Thanks. elleng Dec 2015 #17

I won't argue crime stats on MD. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #22

You know Hillary's only 5-6 younger than Sanders, right? merrily Dec 2015 #70

Six years, one month, eighteen days. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #82

Where's the minutes and seconds? NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #90

A trivial span of time, since both are in good health. n/t. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #130

Sounds like a situation comedy. Lint Head Dec 2015 #2

I give Hillary a 4, the lady in the dress a 7 but the real star of this clip Number23 Dec 2015 #4

LOOKS like a situation comedy. elleng Dec 2015 #19

Everyone hates Bernie, Friday's at 8 pinebox Dec 2015 #27

yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wendylaroux Dec 2015 #124

Now that's "Presidential" Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #127

I thought I hated her until I met her opponents. bravenak Dec 2015 #3

So you're judging her based on "her opponents"???? darkangel218 Dec 2015 #7

It's not a very convincing claim. Crystalite Dec 2015 #14

I'm afraid you are correct. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #21

Based on her opponents, based on her opponents' supporters, merrily Dec 2015 #71

I swear it is performance art. Puglover Dec 2015 #87

When it doubt, consult the dictionary for at least a starting point: merrily Dec 2015 #88

:) Puglover Dec 2015 #91

Bad Brecht. Sounds like halitosis, possible due to excess stomach acid. Now, that's more like it! merrily Dec 2015 #92

She started that nonsensical crap Puglover Dec 2015 #86

Thats precious. bobbobbins01 Dec 2015 #9

Umm hmm bravenak Dec 2015 #11

Thats even more precious. bobbobbins01 Dec 2015 #12

To be sure. Umm hmm. bravenak Dec 2015 #15

So how does she win the GE? Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #16

We don't convince everybody that hates her. We convince enough DEMOCRATS to show up. bravenak Dec 2015 #23

so, you have no plan to win over hard left, hard right, or moderates. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #32

What plan does Bernie have? bravenak Dec 2015 #38

When it comes to the GE Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #41

I told you our plan. Show up to stop republicans and have good people campaigning. bravenak Dec 2015 #42

what about all those down ballot Socialists redstateblues Dec 2015 #109

hahaha rbrnmw Dec 2015 #46

He he he! bravenak Dec 2015 #48

I used to think like that. zigby Dec 2015 #24

Yep. We have our votes. They count. bravenak Dec 2015 #25

So the symbol is more important than policy? Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #28

I never said that. zigby Dec 2015 #35

It sounds like you have a LOT in common with Bernie Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #39

Thanks for the welcome. zigby Dec 2015 #126

before you get all excited about the "it's time for a woman prez"thing, maybe you should find out kath Dec 2015 #128

wow glad you're here to talk down to me zigby Dec 2015 #129

i feel similar, although i never hated her JI7 Dec 2015 #37

I now think I must have never really hated her either. Not like they so. bravenak Dec 2015 #40

She's not, of course, 'our only chance.' elleng Dec 2015 #5

Nah. Just the Republicans of all stripes, and the extreme Left. BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #8

yup. KMOD Dec 2015 #13

Yes, they do. And as the elections get closer, the excitement is going to go through the roof. BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #26

Didn't realize watching paint dry was exciting. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #132

It isn't. BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #134

Uh... no. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #131

So that's 30 pct plus a current 3rd of Democrats ibegurpard Dec 2015 #20

We'll talk after the holidays. BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #30

I've written talking points. I know talking points. ibegurpard Dec 2015 #33

Yeah. Okay. BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #98

You never answered my original question. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #36

After she's elected... tazkcmo Dec 2015 #79

"Hillary is no Obama" quickesst Dec 2015 #85

Oh? I didn't know I was required to do so. I guess I've been posting back and forth with so many BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #97

I like Bernie better, and I have never hated her. rusty quoin Dec 2015 #18

Last time I checked Hillary was polling at over 80% with Democrats Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #29

80 percent of 30 percent ibegurpard Dec 2015 #34

Exactly. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #49

Doesn't that work the other way, too? ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #75

Well if it hard for Hillary Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #96

Behind to she who has every institutional advantage. But she still cannot bury him. Why is that? Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #108

Buried definition might be like having six feet of dirt on top Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #110

So roughly 24% TM99 Dec 2015 #77

Because if you don't win the primary there is no beyond! Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #100

There is no beyond for Clinton. TM99 Dec 2015 #111

I know I am delusional Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #112

Well you said it, not me! TM99 Dec 2015 #114

Dems are very excited about us winning the WH. Rex Dec 2015 #31

"Dems" are 30% of the electorate. You don't win with 30%. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #102

Just talking about here in my area, they are excited about the prospects of another Dem in the WH. Rex Dec 2015 #118

Yet that still makes them only 30% of the electorate. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #119

So how much of the electorate is the GOP? Rex Dec 2015 #120

Depending on the poll, about 20-30%. jeff47 Dec 2015 #121

Dam now that has me worried. Rex Dec 2015 #122

The Republicans will vote for anyone with an R after their name. jeff47 Dec 2015 #123

That really worries me, thank you for explaining to me the situation. Rex Dec 2015 #125

No, you all do not hate Mrs. Clinton. You all question her credibility and akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #43

What you say is true regarding the general election. But I jwirr Dec 2015 #115

I don't want to be on her hitlist rbrnmw Dec 2015 #44

Now, that brought back memories of the worst kind when she was akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #45

Name the HRC supporters here who told you "everyone STILL hates Hillary"? SunSeeker Dec 2015 #47

I will not name names. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #50

"I will not turn this into some meta crap." SunSeeker Dec 2015 #55

as stated in my OP Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #57

+100! Cha Dec 2015 #68

Mahalo, Cha! SunSeeker Dec 2015 #69

Not sure if she overcomes angrychair Dec 2015 #51

hmmmm. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #54

After seeing the hateful left that has came spewing out giftedgirl77 Dec 2015 #52

For real bravenak Dec 2015 #53

that's truth right there rbrnmw Dec 2015 #89

The hateful left is just awful, posting videos of Hillary saying things.. frylock Dec 2015 #116

I am a Hillary supporter. BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #56

She's rather our best chance of losing the White House. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #58

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #59

Hillary has around an 80% approval rating from african americans in most polls I've seen. Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #61

Polls taken by white people, working for the white mainstream media. Major Hogwash Dec 2015 #65

They're in deep denial and it comes out in the most deplorable ways. Cha Dec 2015 #67

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #80

That is not true at all. bravenak Dec 2015 #62

Your post is all over the place Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #60

I have read exactly that. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #63

She's leading Sanders among liberal voters: Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #64

Your poll only includes Democrats, not "voters". jeff47 Dec 2015 #105

The hate against Hillary comes from one certain place imo: Tipperary Dec 2015 #66

Right. Her vote for the IWR and PATRIOT Act and support by corps means nothing Android3.14 Dec 2015 #72

Do you hate- Rose Siding Dec 2015 #84

Odd choice of words. I don't "hate" any of them, but yes, they are unqualified to lead the USA Android3.14 Dec 2015 #93

Of course, because she was the only Democrat who supported those.. oh wait.. Amimnoch Dec 2015 #104

Another odd response. I think I tried this tactic with my mother at age 10 Android3.14 Dec 2015 #113

I have never said she is the only choice. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #73

Which stage of grief is this? JoePhilly Dec 2015 #74

Yea guess everyone hates her even all the female Senators FloridaBlues Dec 2015 #76

Not all... Sen. Warren wasn't there. eom Fawke Em Dec 2015 #133

like everybody hates Obama? greenman3610 Dec 2015 #78

LOL, what would be the point? msrizzo Dec 2015 #81

Well said! Lisa D Dec 2015 #95

I don't hate Hillary,... HooptieWagon Dec 2015 #83

^^^THIS^^^ jwirr Dec 2015 #117

A Bernie-supporter-style reverse psychology clickbait headline. Nitram Dec 2015 #94

I know you say you'd rather have a nap, but you should get out more. JTFrog Dec 2015 #99

not everybody hates her 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #101

Majorities of every demographic EXCEPT DEMOCRATS distrust Clinton. 68% of Democrats trust her and Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #103

I don't hate Hillary - It's just that I'm more of a social-democrat or New Dealer than one of these Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #106

because not everyone hates her! dlwickham Dec 2015 #107