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MaggieD

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44. The thing all these journalists and Hillary haters miss...
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:28 PM
Dec 2015

... is that none of you have read her book. It was published a year and a half ago, and written at least 2 years ago. And she exhibits plenty of skepticism about the TPP there. Yes, TWO years ago.

As SOS she was cheerleading for her hopes for it, even while she was trying to assist the US Trade rep in getting things like the right of workers in signatory countries to organize into unions, and prohibitions against currency manipulation included in the agreement. Those two items alone would have made a world of difference for workers in every country signing on to it.

The right to unionize in Asian markets would have done more to level the playing field than any other trade agreement in the world between any country. Indeed it would have set the gold standard and precedent for existing and new trade agreements.

Currency manipulation hurts US workers tremendously because it makes imported goods costs artificially low and therefore US products less competitive.

When neither of those things (and others) made it in to the final agreement she stated she did not support it. And that is exactly what she said in her book written 2 years ago.

AND she voted against CAFTA while in the senate. So, given that a) she stated 2 years ago what she needed to see to support the final product, and b) she has a history of voting against trade bills, I don't think you can credibly claim she ended up not supporting it for reasons of political expediency.

Kickin' Faux pas Dec 2015 #1
When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Dec 2015 #2
So you're saying the Union members were too stupid to make an informed recommendation? brooklynite Dec 2015 #3
No... Not Union Members... Union "Leadership"... WillyT Dec 2015 #6
Union members elect their leadership workinclasszero Dec 2015 #30
No, we're not making enemies. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #55
Strawman much? daleanime Dec 2015 #9
Both leaderships polled their membership... brooklynite Dec 2015 #11
I wasn't asked anything by AFSCME even though I was an AFSCME PEOPLE PAC donor often Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #13
Wow. How revealing is that? 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #16
Wow! That's very telling. Nt tex-wyo-dem Dec 2015 #23
And data coming from CNN, the Hill Network, floriduck Dec 2015 #27
Are you an AFSCME --MEMBER--? brooklynite Dec 2015 #33
I run the DU Labor Group (did you know we have one?) Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #42
Maybe you didn't attend the meeting upaloopa Dec 2015 #52
I notice your links mention nothing... tex-wyo-dem Dec 2015 #19
SEIU has said over 75% of their members support Hillary. n/t tammywammy Dec 2015 #25
Not 75% In This Bulding... And Nobody Asked Us... WillyT Dec 2015 #34
I belong to SEIU local 260 upaloopa Dec 2015 #53
75% of their polled members had a favorable view. RichVRichV Dec 2015 #54
+ 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #59
Right.....sure....... daleanime Dec 2015 #20
Post says "should have"; reality is "did not" SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #41
If Bernie wins, it will truly be a people's revolution. Baitball Blogger Dec 2015 #4
No link. tk2kewl Dec 2015 #5
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #7
Guess What? Gamecock Lefty Dec 2015 #8
Correction -- the LEADERSHIP did the endorsing... Hepburn Dec 2015 #10
...after consulting with their members. brooklynite Dec 2015 #12
please link to the vote by the rank and file marym625 Dec 2015 #17
You must have missed this video upstring 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #21
The point ejbr Dec 2015 #31
I find any post that attempts to smear Hillary because of Bill.... MaggieD Dec 2015 #14
Regarding your last sentence ejbr Dec 2015 #32
No one that has previously worked with Unions in politics would differ MaggieD Dec 2015 #45
Says the anonymous person on the internet ejbr Dec 2015 #48
Take it or leave it MaggieD Dec 2015 #49
OK ejbr Dec 2015 #50
Nicely put, Maggie. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #40
Hillary called TPP the GOLD STANDARD not so long ago Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #43
The thing all these journalists and Hillary haters miss... MaggieD Dec 2015 #44
How did she decide to be against the final product? Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #46
I hadnt seen that, and would love a link MaggieD Dec 2015 #47
Link Fawke Em Dec 2015 #57
I don't think she needed to see the full text MaggieD Dec 2015 #58
Funny thing about that Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #62
Bogus points. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #56
K&R! marym625 Dec 2015 #15
My union leadership endorsed HRC. JonathanRackham Dec 2015 #18
The umbrella organization AFC-CIO asked all member unions to wait until after the Feb conference Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #24
Union "leadership" tends to try to cover their asses. Fuddnik Dec 2015 #22
Reminds me of 72 when the union heads supported the great Richard Nixon. jalan48 Dec 2015 #26
I still remember the Teamsters endorsing Reagan in '84, even after his Air Traffic Controllers mess EndElectoral Dec 2015 #37
The seeds of our Third Way Corporate Democrats. jalan48 Dec 2015 #38
maybe they can rampage into an Episcopal Church and beat up students passing by? MisterP Dec 2015 #51
Since you are familiar with unions then you know unions endorse candidates Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #28
Coulda, woulda, shoulda... SidDithers Dec 2015 #29
Betcha members vote what they want. And right after they vote for President Sanders this union jtuck004 Dec 2015 #35
K&R nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #36
Operative phrase: "should have". Nitram Dec 2015 #39
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #60
You didn't want those grapes any way! MohRokTah Dec 2015 #61
The country loses if she wins. eom Fawke Em Dec 2015 #63
The country loses if Sanders wins. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #64
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