2016 Postmortem

SusanCalvin

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73. All I want is whatever is likely to get as close to the truth as possible,

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Sat Dec 26, 2015, 12:37 AM

Dec 2015

as quickly as possible. I have my opinions, but am quite willing to let the chips fall.

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The Sanders Campaign Is Taking Its FIGHT With The DNC To The Next Level [View all] Segami Dec 2015 OP

"...The adviser said the Sanders campaign.. Segami Dec 2015 #1

Leopards don't change their spots madokie Dec 2015 #2

Someone needs to answer Segami Dec 2015 #8

DWS is in bed with HRC madokie Dec 2015 #12

Yes. If this HRC/DWS/DNC cozy threesome isn't painfully obvious to anyone who looks closely .. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #15

Corruption. nt JEB Dec 2015 #24

I don't see how anyone can vote for Hillary knowing that her campaign in cahoots with the DNC JDPriestly Dec 2015 #96

100 percent correct. SusanaMontana41 Dec 2015 #104

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #144

To the contrary madokie Dec 2015 #182

Hillary is crushing Sanders amoung Dem's: that's a fact lewebley3 Dec 2015 #194

LOL madokie Dec 2015 #197

musn't feed trolls, my friend navarth Dec 2015 #201

I know madokie Dec 2015 #206

Ahh is that true? Silver_Witch Dec 2015 #221

Bernie had just gotten a key endorsement and 2 million sponsors going into the debate... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #59

That's the kind of crap chervilant Dec 2015 #114

The "Frank Underwood" type is admired in the Beltway. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #145

but not by the voters. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #160

They see this as her LAST CHANCE.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #172

It is. I don't see her attempting another run in 8 years. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #196

Joined by the "impeachment is off the table" mentality we all screamed about. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #227

Well, I had to look up chervilant Dec 2015 #203

I can fault the DNC creeksneakers2 Dec 2015 #78

Thanks, Segami... Someone does need to answer... This stinks to high heaven... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #84

Alternatively: what could have been lost by dealing with it quietly? Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #100

Bingo! Scuba Dec 2015 #106

They were hoping for a Dean Scream moment. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #219

You did good, segami. pangaia Dec 2015 #13

lol!....did you say 'Overdrive'?.... Segami Dec 2015 #16

Awesome!! nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #18

++++ Keep pumpin' !!! pangaia Dec 2015 #29

Am I supposed to go to Office Depot to pick-up something? Duckfan Dec 2015 #42

"You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet"!! gordyfl Dec 2015 #97

Why does this not surprise me? passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #30

K&R Thanks for posting this. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #3

This is sounding quite serious while some have been saying- just move on. Nope. appalachiablue Dec 2015 #4

Thanks Segami. K&R Duval Dec 2015 #5

The DNC DWS DLC Third-Way Establishment And HRC - Doing What They Do - Obfuscate cantbeserious Dec 2015 #6

Or dirty tricks. zeemike Dec 2015 #36

Thank you for posting. SamKnause Dec 2015 #7

They "Must" Keep Bernie From Upsetting The Gravy Train Yallow Dec 2015 #9

I just saw this too !!!! You beat me to it. :>))) pangaia Dec 2015 #10

Holy Moly!! I don't have words ... oh, wait .. yes i do. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #11

I really would like to see what the lawsuit brings forth in discovery. Duckfan Dec 2015 #43

A Clintonite was claiming yesterday that it will take 'months or years' for discovery 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #76

Hillary and the DNC messed with the wrong person this time. Bernie is not afraid to liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #14

This is priceless! underthematrix Dec 2015 #38

I had a manager tell me once- notadmblnd Dec 2015 #61

The presidency is a leadership position. The president performs some executive but most are delegate underthematrix Dec 2015 #81

A good manager also delegates notadmblnd Dec 2015 #83

But Presidents are not managers. Presidents create a vision, articulated in a policy agenda underthematrix Dec 2015 #91

They are leaders as are managers notadmblnd Dec 2015 #92

Yes managers lead from where they are. But everyone leads from where they are underthematrix Dec 2015 #94

You say tomatoe, I say tamatoo notadmblnd Dec 2015 #95

I hear you. underthematrix Dec 2015 #99

the presidency is a representative position/office hopemountain Dec 2015 #234

What do you mean by representative? underthematrix Dec 2015 #238

she/he represents the citizens whom elected she/he. hopemountain Dec 2015 #240

I have a doctorate in organizational management and leadership and underthematrix Dec 2015 #242

yes, you are correct about whom the president represents. hopemountain Dec 2015 #256

No, Bernie is running to be President for the people daybranch Dec 2015 #105

I really hope you don't believe what you're saying because underthematrix Dec 2015 #239

The Sanders folks are lucky federal criminal charges haven't been filed Gman Dec 2015 #17

Have you taken a good look at your avatar lately? Gregorian Dec 2015 #20

One of the most interesting in years. Gman Dec 2015 #25

Uretsky is a phd in the sciences. Gregorian Dec 2015 #27

Two hours? Backslash Dec 2015 #40

You're correct, 40 mins not 2 hours. Welcome to DU! emulatorloo Dec 2015 #186

Jail? thesquanderer Dec 2015 #62

I'm sure the Sanders folks want it to be a civil issue Gman Dec 2015 #77

You'll ride that dead horse to the bitter end. Makes you look pretty silly. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #132

Shillary's gotta shill concreteblue Dec 2015 #156

LOL! Gman Dec 2015 #212

A lot like Watergate. murielm99 Dec 2015 #68

I've heard this assertion chervilant Dec 2015 #116

IMO............bring it grasswire Dec 2015 #87

Honestly, no. cprise Dec 2015 #26

Good points in the article but Gman Dec 2015 #48

The points cover that. eom cprise Dec 2015 #82

They? chervilant Dec 2015 #117

So, I take it then that you're joining the call for a full and independent investigation. Broward Dec 2015 #32

From Day 1 Gman Dec 2015 #51

and *all* campaigns activities. Because back in October when Bernie first reported the problem magical thyme Dec 2015 #128

What federal criminal charges would those be? MNBrewer Dec 2015 #37

Did you even read the article? You know...the one that says that THE DNC AND NGP VAN RECOMMENDED THE magical thyme Dec 2015 #45

From what I've seen so far, SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #67

It appears that the operator came from the DNC creeksneakers2 Dec 2015 #79

except per Uretsky's resume, he never worked directly for either of them magical thyme Dec 2015 #127

Sounds exactly like my Republican aquiantances on FB. Phlem Dec 2015 #46

I guess I'm not "progressive" enough to excuse data theft Gman Dec 2015 #50

Fail. Phlem Dec 2015 #52

Discovery in the lawsuit Gman Dec 2015 #53

You go on and keep patting yourself on the back. Phlem Dec 2015 #56

What is your federal crime theory? morningfog Dec 2015 #63

What makes you think this is criminal? JDPriestly Dec 2015 #98

^^BINGO^^ nt SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #119

The DNC did absolutely the right thing going to the press Gman Dec 2015 #120

That's some logic you have there. Chef Eric Dec 2015 #150

Are you saying they should have called law enforcement? Gman Dec 2015 #228

YOU are the one who used the "stealing a TV" analogy. Chef Eric Dec 2015 #241

Under what legal theory was there any theft? JDPriestly Dec 2015 #215

It's not like it was an accident Gman Dec 2015 #226

NPG Van was the contractor in charge of the website. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #235

A "bug" doesn't matter to what they did. Gman Dec 2015 #237

The vendor states in the blog on its website at NGP Van.com that only one page JDPriestly Dec 2015 #244

That's their story and they're sticking to it Gman Dec 2015 #246

This message was self-deleted by its author d_r Dec 2015 #233

'Dirty politics'? I thought you would want everything in the open. randome Dec 2015 #122

I am asking why people define it as criminal? JDPriestly Dec 2015 #214

Oh, I agree that saying this was criminal is a stretch. randome Dec 2015 #236

DNC Might Pay Bernie gordyfl Dec 2015 #199

He needs money that badly? Gman Dec 2015 #211

Sheesh! Here you go playing the victim again ejbr Dec 2015 #19

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #21

We - at least, "we" of the Sanders camp Plucketeer Dec 2015 #22

Bernie calls thier bluff and go's all in. ValasHune Dec 2015 #23

THIS is how Bernie will handle the oligarchs! grasswire Dec 2015 #88

Because he's a fighter! zentrum Dec 2015 #28

I still want to know SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #31

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #33

K&R Thank for posting Mbrow Dec 2015 #34

The DNC was trying to frame Bernie Kalidurga Dec 2015 #35

DNCgate Geronimoe Dec 2015 #39

Good. Cut-through-the-bullshit actions like this are why I gladly donate as much as I can GoneFishin Dec 2015 #41

Everyone needs to see how he handles this. Phlem Dec 2015 #44

it also demonstrates how he will handle foreign policy grasswire Dec 2015 #89

Wassergate!! Pharaoh Dec 2015 #47

It beats DebbieGate, doesn't it? MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #86

I laughed twice as hard at your witticism... KansDem Dec 2015 #177

Ha! I did't know that! Pharaoh Dec 2015 #216

They have to and if they're going to make it count Jarqui Dec 2015 #49

Do you know more detail about the October "another system"? SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #69

The uses more than one software application for their data Jarqui Dec 2015 #125

So the main perpetrator is a hired gun/hack with his brown nose in the asses of the DNC and NGP Van. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2015 #54

Interesting, yes? SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #71

Depositions would be nice too. Segami Dec 2015 #72

All I want is whatever is likely to get as close to the truth as possible, SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #73

DNC shenanigans are being exposed! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #55

After all the pious indignity about Bernie's "integrity problem" let's find out the whole truth. pa28 Dec 2015 #57

hillary gave out a huge clue during the debate hopemountain Dec 2015 #58

Wow, did this just get interesting. Eom Karma13612 Dec 2015 #60

Proud to be rec #100 azurnoir Dec 2015 #64

I am trying to donate to Bernie... but the site doesn't go through. Akamai Dec 2015 #65

Five times and I get the error message-- Webpage not available. Akamai Dec 2015 #66

Says something about the number of donations? SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #70

Go to the DU Bernie Sanders Group... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #74

Kick and R BeanMusical Dec 2015 #75

Why did Sanders apologize if he didn't mean it? Renew Deal Dec 2015 #80

Alleged breach of contract is why it's still going forward. draa Dec 2015 #90

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #85

Did I miss something? If Sanders' team could access.... Beartracks Dec 2015 #93

Read this article. Vinca Dec 2015 #113

Yes. And they did... weknowvino2 Dec 2015 #133

Interesting. Beartracks Dec 2015 #202

Interesting....me too!! Silver_Witch Dec 2015 #222

Me too. I'm now part of the HRC campaign, according to my email. mikehiggins Dec 2015 #232

Further question... Helen Borg Dec 2015 #101

The American People are Not Interested in This, says Hillary gordyfl Dec 2015 #102

So she hopes. But she & DWS have made a huge mistake here. peacebird Dec 2015 #103

Go get 'em Bernie!!! Scuba Dec 2015 #107

Always the victim. leftofcool Dec 2015 #108

Only 1% and their sycophants would agree, Hillary never/always plays the victim, what day is it ? orpupilofnature57 Dec 2015 #110

Holy shit! The conspiracy grows! randome Dec 2015 #109

This just gets better and better Proserpina Dec 2015 #111

Bernie Voters gordyfl Dec 2015 #112

Why not post the entire Axelrod quote and the context in which it was said? George II Dec 2015 #192

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #115

K&R nt raouldukelives Dec 2015 #118

That's what I've been saying since the beginning of this debacle, It's An Inside Job!!!!!!! Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #121

Same here. Now it seems blatantly obvious. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #134

What we're seeing is the complete corruption of our elections... raindaddy Dec 2015 #123

Because NOTHING says "DINO" like fighting the DNC. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #124

The DNC is not Democratic they are a tool of the wealthy Oligarchy. This issue where the DNC openly rhett o rick Dec 2015 #129

The DNC is the national organizing body of the Democratic Party MohRokTah Dec 2015 #130

You haven't a clue. DWS is the DNC. There is your DINO. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #136

And that post demonstrates you have no idea about the Democratic Party, the DNC,... MohRokTah Dec 2015 #139

No, you are the one that will not see the truth. You are part of the problem. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #140

If you consider being a lifelong loyal Democrat a "problem",... MohRokTah Dec 2015 #142

And if the majority of Democrats who vote disagree with them? Babel_17 Dec 2015 #161

I reject the basis of your premise. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #162

It wasn't a premise, it was a question Babel_17 Dec 2015 #164

There is no indiction whatsoever that the majority of Democrats will vote against them. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #166

Link to a poll? In regards breaking up the banks, reinstating Glass Steagall, in short ... Babel_17 Dec 2015 #175

Then why is it we lost control of first one, then both houses of Congress under DWS? Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #191

Because the extreme left wing of the party sat out 2010,... MohRokTah Dec 2015 #193

I am new here.... Silver_Witch Dec 2015 #224

Some are in total denial. The DNC represents the Oligarchy. DWS favors HRC to a fault and doesn't rhett o rick Dec 2015 #247

Your statement is 180 degrees out of synch with reality. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #252

Have you been to a state convention? Have you ever voted for or met a member of the DNC? Gothmog Dec 2015 #243

It's not the grassroots that I object to, it's the leadership that has sold us out for some pieces rhett o rick Dec 2015 #249

Then start going to county and state conventions Gothmog Dec 2015 #251

I guess you haven't been paying attention. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #135

I've been paying close attention MohRokTah Dec 2015 #137

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My post was 100% truthful and accurate. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #143

Survives another alert Sheepshank Dec 2015 #149

It gets gamed Babel_17 Dec 2015 #178

I believe in Freedom of speech...what has happened to DU?????? onecent Dec 2015 #195

Well, of course, you are the ultimate decider of who has and who does not have democratic values. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #170

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So all Sanders supporters are DINOs? Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #147

That is not what the poster said. eom 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #165

Correct, it merely only very strongly suggests that. Babel_17 Dec 2015 #173

You left out the qualifier phase ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #176

I don't think so Babel_17 Dec 2015 #179

I've never understood why some work so hard to ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #180

Not much of a qualifier at all, which is why I said "only very strongly suggests" ... Babel_17 Dec 2015 #187

Yeah okay. LOL n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #188

:) nt Babel_17 Dec 2015 #190

Can you enlighten me about what the Democratic Party freedom fighter jh Dec 2015 #168

You will never get a serious answer. Because ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2015 #185

I didn't expect one, really. freedom fighter jh Dec 2015 #205

We need a mic drop smilie! SunSeeker Dec 2015 #217

Congrats, you've won Archie Bunker's RW Invective of the Day. Please keep it civil by remembering whereisjustice Dec 2015 #223

. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #229

SO, The PLOT Thickens! ................ Was he a DNC Plant? Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #126

Sounds more like a conspiracy theory to me... 40RatRod Dec 2015 #131

Almost all real conspiracies start out as "conspiracy theories". Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #138

You have never dealt with a bully then AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #159

Bernie is such a sham. Indydem Dec 2015 #146

So you clearly WANT Sanders to run a THIRD PARTY campaign. Right? n/t 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #152

Little late now. Indydem Dec 2015 #207

It's patently untrue that "Bernie never helped build" the DNC database. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #213

Should we start having entrance exams and requiring resumes for admission to the party? dragonlady Dec 2015 #157

Great! Grow the membership. Indydem Dec 2015 #208

(Sanders is) going to set the party back 20 years if he wins the nomination. left-of-center2012 Dec 2015 #163

It needs to be set back further than that eom Plucketeer Dec 2015 #174

And how does he intend to accomplish those things? Indydem Dec 2015 #209

Yup. There's a reason the GOP want Sanders to win the nomination. nt SunSeeker Dec 2015 #218

Bernie will set us back 20 years? left-of-center2012 Dec 2015 #220

Your Best Democratic VCandidate in Florida is... An EX Republican! CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #230

If Bernie is such a Denocrat.... Indydem Dec 2015 #245

Sanders wasn't invited to run in the Democratic primary to fight our Democrats. Not endearing. seabeyond Dec 2015 #148

No, Bernie was "invited to run as Dem" as a DNC/DWS/NPG-VAN "set-up" for DataGate. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #151

Steal and deflect seabeyond Dec 2015 #155

Like Rahm Emanuel? Who are "our" Democrats? Babel_17 Dec 2015 #171

The DNC no more defines our party than the Queen and the aristocrats define Great Britain Babel_17 Dec 2015 #153

Don't you even wonder who this un-named Sanders adviser is??? Historic NY Dec 2015 #154

my advice to Sanders campaign is get off the side issues treestar Dec 2015 #158

Free publicity! Woohoo!! Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #167

K&R CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #169

Mrs. Wall Street is going to get Obama'd by an old white dude... Playinghardball Dec 2015 #183

The Sander's Campaign came clean, bvar22 Dec 2015 #184

let's compare the two parallel DUs: one's are all long-timers from 2001, star donors, MisterP Dec 2015 #198

Now here's an interesting development regarding the Sanders campaign's theft of data: George II Dec 2015 #200

Party Information Indydem Dec 2015 #210

I never gave my information to the DNC, I only gave it to Clinton's campaign when I made..... George II Dec 2015 #250

Ever donated to anyone else? Indydem Dec 2015 #253

Not with that email address, and never got political junk mail at that address before either.... George II Dec 2015 #254

Interesting. Indydem Dec 2015 #255

Democratic Party Evolving? gordyfl Dec 2015 #204

K&R! red dog 1 Dec 2015 #225

Who is this "top campaign advisor"? mikehiggins Dec 2015 #231

How'd it go? brooklynite Dec 2015 #248