Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)Hillary or Bernie. NAFTA or The New Deal. Third Way or Bedrock Democratic Party Principles [View all]
I'd have thought most of if not all of this to be common knowledge, but then maybe that's because for many of us old hippy types, it's been a history we've lived through and only expect more of http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-clinton-is-sorry_55a83397e4b0896514d0e220 out of another Clinton presidency. I'd like to see it become common knowledge if for no other reason than to eliminate any and all other reasons to support a HC candidacy over a BS one other than the fact that her supporters support her 3rdway ways, and that's about it. If that's the case, well, then they are properly branded, no? Just spare us the apologies in the future, and take your medicine quietly when the "we told you sos" commence should she win...lol
Hillary or Bernie. NAFTA or The New Deal. Third Way or Bedrock Democratic Party Principles
The Democratic Party is on the verge of selecting its candidate for the 2016 Presidential Election.
I do not think it is an understatement to say that this primary election is a battle for the Soul of the Democratic Party. This is not to say that one side or the other is somehow soul-less. It is rather, a sober acknowledgement that there are significant differences between the two opposing sides. This is not just window-dressing. These are deep ideological differences.
The winner will likely chart the course of the Democratic Party for at least the next 10 years. With so much at stake, it behooves all of us to take a look at our differences squarely in order to decide which type of Democratic Party we wish to be and why.
I will vote for Bernie Sanders and a renewal of the promise of the New Deal. Hillary Clinton does not earn my vote because IMHO she is the embodiment of Third Way triangulation that has taken the Democratic Party incrementally to the verge of irrelevance as a force for good in the lives of Working Class Americans. http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/27/1463249/-Hillary-or-Bernie-NAFTA-or-The-New-Deal-Third-Way-or-Bedrock-Democratic-Party-Principles
InfoView thread info, including edit history
TrashPut this thread in your Trash Can (My DU » Trash Can)
BookmarkAdd this thread to your Bookmarks (My DU » Bookmarks)
84 replies, 5089 views
ShareGet links to this post and/or share on social media
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
ReplyReply to this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
Rec (97)
ReplyReply to this post
84 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Hillary or Bernie. NAFTA or The New Deal. Third Way or Bedrock Democratic Party Principles [View all]
stupidicus
Dec 2015
OP
When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go
cantbeserious
Dec 2015
#1
Sanders doesn't represent anything close to the values of the Democratic Party.
MohRokTah
Dec 2015
#5
What exactly is your point, that FDR was or was not a role model for Democrats?
shawn703
Dec 2015
#30
That us utter nonsense. Bernie caucuses with Dems for DECADES, yet is anti-Democratic
99th_Monkey
Dec 2015
#63
Oh, I ABSOLUTELY believe Sanders lies about his true positiions just to win elections. eom
MohRokTah
Dec 2015
#16
I completely agree with and fully support both internaitonal traade agreements.
MohRokTah
Dec 2015
#26
I like the women and kids that are tied to their machines in SE Asia. My favorite part.
jalan48
Dec 2015
#33
That must be why most, if not all unions, HATE the NAFTA/TPP job-killers. FAIL. nt
99th_Monkey
Dec 2015
#67
This Citizen Has Heard HRC Spin Tales In Pitch Prefect Corporate Tones - This Citizen Is Not Buying
cantbeserious
Dec 2015
#7
Where in the world have you been? Specifics have been discussed here many, many times. nt
stillwaiting
Dec 2015
#47
Clinton is -- by far -- the best of the Republican candidates this election cycle.
Attorney in Texas
Dec 2015
#19
FDR hand an >70% PROGRESSIVE congress throughout his 4 terms as president...
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#32
I'm waiting for an answer to the question of why take a chance on Sanders. I don't believe Clinton..
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#44
Republicans were demonized until around 37 and then tied to the banks and Wall Street...
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#45
He knows where he stands, he is no neophyte, he will have the trust of the people.
senz
Dec 2015
#41
There have been progressives who had the trust of the people in the last 100 years but they
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#46
My ears and eyes were hearing and seeing Sanders non answer on the question of what Hillary has
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#70
NONE of the candidates, including Sanders, can throw a stone... I think that's one of the biggest
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#72
Thank you for the link, stupidicus. This is valuable material. Strongly recommended.
senz
Dec 2015
#42
well, you might also notice that they do the same in support of their fellows
stupidicus
Dec 2015
#59
I know one thing, my Abuela wouldn't approve of the third way triangulating neoliberal "democrats"
leftupnorth
Dec 2015
#51