2016 Postmortem

JackInGreen

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76. Have you noticed

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:27 AM

Dec 2015

the longer this has gone on the more ya'll have sounded like the ragged people in shredded clothing at the wee hours of night screaming at the sky pushing your handcarts down the empty, empty downtown street where people used to live? Don't you want help? or are you so wrapped up in the rage and passion of 'HILRY ONLEE' that you've lost sight of anything that doesn't have Hillaries smiling face rocketing upward like the cherry on top of a very evolved and ever changing sundae?

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Hillary or Bernie. NAFTA or The New Deal. Third Way or Bedrock Democratic Party Principles [View all] stupidicus Dec 2015 OP

When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Dec 2015 #1

Word Brother FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #4

Massive K&R..... daleanime Dec 2015 #2

Calling myself an FDR Social Democrat now. libdem4life Dec 2015 #3

Sanders doesn't represent anything close to the values of the Democratic Party. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #5

Sanders is more of a Democrat that Clinton could ever hope to be CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #9

hat's the most absurd assertion I've ever read. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #12

Except FDR, the gold standard of Democrats shawn703 Dec 2015 #17

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! MohRokTah Dec 2015 #23

What exactly is your point, that FDR was or was not a role model for Democrats? shawn703 Dec 2015 #30

You points are nonsensical... humbled_opinion Dec 2015 #35

You shouldn't bother kenfrequed Dec 2015 #38

That one must be fresh-out of the focus groups 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #64

Maybe Bernie would have joined the Democratic Party earlier in his career, JDPriestly Dec 2015 #29

If Sanders is so anti-Democrat, as you suggest... Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #31

THIS ^ n/t 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #65

That us utter nonsense. Bernie caucuses with Dems for DECADES, yet is anti-Democratic 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #63

+1000000!!!! n/t 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #61

Well if by values you mean humbled_opinion Dec 2015 #14

Oh, I ABSOLUTELY believe Sanders lies about his true positiions just to win elections. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #16

Drinking the Clinton Kool-Aid I see shawn703 Dec 2015 #18

There is only one panderer in the race. Hillary. 840high Dec 2015 #27

Yeah and you have some specifics humbled_opinion Dec 2015 #34

Look at his voting record. Ikonoklast Dec 2015 #68

Have you noticed JackInGreen Dec 2015 #76

Are you digging on NAFTA and the TPP? Democratic Party principles are they? jalan48 Dec 2015 #20

I completely agree with and fully support both internaitonal traade agreements. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #26

I like the women and kids that are tied to their machines in SE Asia. My favorite part. jalan48 Dec 2015 #33

Sure as long as you can humbled_opinion Dec 2015 #36

That must be why most, if not all unions, HATE the NAFTA/TPP job-killers. FAIL. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #67

I don't understand. PyaarRevolution Jan 2016 #80

Agree With CoffeeCat... Dear HillBill Advocate(s)... CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #22

Thanks for being brave enough to murielm99 Dec 2015 #25

sorry, your erroneous if not fallacious declarations are meaningless stupidicus Dec 2015 #52

Talking points or solutions upaloopa Dec 2015 #6

This Citizen Has Heard HRC Spin Tales In Pitch Prefect Corporate Tones - This Citizen Is Not Buying cantbeserious Dec 2015 #7

You hear what you want to hear humbled_opinion Dec 2015 #15

Bingo. Thanks. 840high Dec 2015 #28

those who declare he's "proposed no solutions" stupidicus Dec 2015 #53

Why not not give us just one cite from the proposed treaty that you hate.. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #8

You know darn good and well the TPP is kept under wraps. senz Dec 2015 #40

Where in the world have you been? Specifics have been discussed here many, many times. nt stillwaiting Dec 2015 #47

good grief stupidicus Dec 2015 #54

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #10

What made the party win or what makes it lose. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #11

The basic question, NAFTA or the NEW DEAL. Terrific! appalachiablue Dec 2015 #13

Clinton is -- by far -- the best of the Republican candidates this election cycle. Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #19

lol stupidicus Dec 2015 #60

Kick azmom Dec 2015 #21

Excellent review of the history of the Democratic Party JDPriestly Dec 2015 #24

I agree with all of that. stupidicus Dec 2015 #55

FDR hand an >70% PROGRESSIVE congress throughout his 4 terms as president... uponit7771 Dec 2015 #32

Why do you refuse to see the power humbled_opinion Dec 2015 #37

I'm waiting for an answer to the question of why take a chance on Sanders. I don't believe Clinton.. uponit7771 Dec 2015 #44

When have you ever heard humbled_opinion Dec 2015 #48

And how, pray tell, do you think he got those big majorities? hedda_foil Dec 2015 #39

Republicans were demonized until around 37 and then tied to the banks and Wall Street... uponit7771 Dec 2015 #45

He knows where he stands, he is no neophyte, he will have the trust of the people. senz Dec 2015 #41

There have been progressives who had the trust of the people in the last 100 years but they uponit7771 Dec 2015 #46

You don't believe your lying eyes ? humbled_opinion Dec 2015 #49

My ears and eyes were hearing and seeing Sanders non answer on the question of what Hillary has uponit7771 Dec 2015 #70

You can't have it both ways humbled_opinion Dec 2015 #71

NONE of the candidates, including Sanders, can throw a stone... I think that's one of the biggest uponit7771 Dec 2015 #72

why should "we" take a chance on Clinton? stupidicus Dec 2015 #56

Thank you for the link, stupidicus. This is valuable material. Strongly recommended. senz Dec 2015 #42

K&R nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #43

It Is That Simple colsohlibgal Dec 2015 #50

well, you might also notice that they do the same in support of their fellows stupidicus Dec 2015 #59

I know one thing, my Abuela wouldn't approve of the third way triangulating neoliberal "democrats" leftupnorth Dec 2015 #51

mine wouldn't either if she were alive today stupidicus Dec 2015 #57

K&R CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #58

Clinton all the way. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #62

FDR's America is no place I'd want to return to. ucrdem Dec 2015 #66

Huge K.R 99Forever Dec 2015 #69

Sanders has had a picture of Eugene Debs in his office for decades, Progressive dog Dec 2015 #73

and? stupidicus Dec 2015 #74

That's Obvious Progressive dog Dec 2015 #75

to a fabricator maybe stupidicus Dec 2015 #77

Rela Democrats not only support the fruits of the New Deal Progressive dog Dec 2015 #78

meaningless garabge and "says you" stupidicus Jan 2016 #81

Thank you for your substantive reply Progressive dog Jan 2016 #82

thanks for conceding that the meaningless garbage designation stupidicus Jan 2016 #83

How clever of you Progressive dog Jan 2016 #84

The OP claims the heritage of FDR for Bernie in spite Progressive dog Dec 2015 #79