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redqueen

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9. This affects girls and young women to a significant degree.

Reply to MADem (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:08 PM

Aug 2013

It's easy for you to portray it as just some meaningless phase, but that's because you personally have never had to deal with it.

Have you seen this? You should.

And who do you think runs the industries and the media that pushes these male-gaze-centric, patriarchal beauty ideals, for fun or profit or whatever? Women?

Have you been to the men's group and seen the most popular thread on DU? That's not about confidence and humor - it's about a "pleasing visage" as you put it. These men aren't "going along with the program", they are reinforcing an ideal. An ideal which appeals to the male gaze.

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Listen Up, Ladies: Here's Everything Real Men Think Is Wrong With You [View all] ismnotwasm Aug 2013 OP

That is the best rant I've read in a while. gollygee Aug 2013 #1

"Real men" equal the kind of men safeinOhio Aug 2013 #2

I actually think women are more critical of their own appearance BainsBane Aug 2013 #3

I used to believe that. redqueen Aug 2013 #6

Curiously, you're taking the word here largely of women... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #26

Back in the real world, at the link above, redqueen Aug 2013 #31

One or two small points ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #32

I love that my wife does 'maintenance' for me Bay Boy Aug 2013 #4

Congratulations. redqueen Aug 2013 #5

Huh? Bay Boy Aug 2013 #7

You know perfectly and no subtly in playing your game. seabeyond Aug 2013 #14

I know nothing... Bay Boy Aug 2013 #18

And do you emerge a perfect fantasy for your wife? ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #16

I do my part... Bay Boy Aug 2013 #17

I make my wife get up an hour before me... Bay Boy Aug 2013 #20

I can't speak for her... redqueen Aug 2013 #23

I think most men could give a shit. They'll go along with whatever's popular. MADem Aug 2013 #8

This affects girls and young women to a significant degree. redqueen Aug 2013 #9

Did I suggest -- ever -- that this was "meaningless?" MADem Aug 2013 #11

Why are you talking about fashion? redqueen Aug 2013 #13

Thank you for posting that video. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2013 #21

The pleasure is all mine, believe me. nt redqueen Aug 2013 #22

You have very valid point ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #15

The playing field is being leveled....! It's a slow process, but it is happening.... MADem Aug 2013 #19

I remember the first time ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #10

THIS MadrasT Aug 2013 #12

... ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #24

Question about a man commenting on a woman’s appearance Jim Lane Aug 2013 #25

Yikes ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #28

That's pretty much what I did. More detail in my response to BainsBane. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #33

Just say you look nice BainsBane Aug 2013 #29

Agreed. It'a definite jerk behavior. Dash87 Aug 2013 #30

I think this is an exception to your point about being controlling. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #34

We need a Martha Argerich School of Beauty BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #27