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davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
14. Maybe I could have used clearer language.
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:24 PM
May 2014

My point is mostly that, while, yes, society is obsessed with sex - the taboo is religious in nature. That there is deep guilt, feelings of wrongness and shame associated with sex when it's a natural thing that pretty much all of us desire. On the one hand - it's promoted like mad, sold like mad, it's all over the place. On the other hand, the deep belief that it is wrong, that we're going to hell if we do it before marriage, that God hates it or that we're bad people for wanting it or doing it... is where the taboo lies. This is why when men talk about sex in a locker room, they aren't honest about it.

You will likely never hear a man in a locker room say, "I'm so horny I think about boinking trees. I don't understand why women don't want me. Can you guys help me figure it out? Why am I still a virgin at 25? Do you think it might be because I only shower once a week? Seriously. Let's talk about this and try to figure it out."

Much more likely, "OMG. Guys, I got me some hot babes last night and we went at it all night long. There was like, three of em, and they were all talkin' about how big my manhood was (it's like six feet long, seriously) and begging me to let them play with it."

I'm exaggerating a bit in both examples, but the point is that there's a reason men lie about sex. Some of it is shame inspired by religious guilt, some of it is shame inspired by the notion that you're not a man if you haven't had sex yet. Some of it is just the frustration of deeply lonely men who can't figure out what to do about their desires.

Thank you for posting shenmue May 2014 #1
Excellent piece. theHandpuppet May 2014 #2
Just like you. sulphurdunn May 2014 #3
my son that will be back soon likes to discuss this subject.... and everything else seabeyond May 2014 #7
Youths confidence. sulphurdunn May 2014 #10
This is excellent! Personally, I am so tired of men who demand that I give them an excuse if I don't DesertDiamond May 2014 #4
virgin/lesbian/slut. seabeyond May 2014 #8
You forgot "bitch" Sweet Freedom May 2014 #15
i kinda see it the seabeyond May 2014 #16
Ewww Sweet Freedom May 2014 #22
omg... two different worlds. lol. and both... men dictating our sexuality. interesting. seabeyond May 2014 #23
I just wonder... theHandpuppet May 2014 #24
i am so glad this woman spoke out. i make this point. every single person ignores it. women? sex? seabeyond May 2014 #5
It's rare, but not THAT rare. davidthegnome May 2014 #6
i dont know if i will read rest. society sex is a taboo subject??? fuggin' for real? we obsessively seabeyond May 2014 #9
Well, if you had read the rest... davidthegnome May 2014 #11
excellent. then david. i will continue on reading. thank you for letting me know. seabeyond May 2014 #12
so why did you say it? your very next sentence proved otherwise. seabeyond May 2014 #13
Maybe I could have used clearer language. davidthegnome May 2014 #14
yes. i get all that. i really do. i have been talking about it for a while now. seabeyond May 2014 #18
For further clarification of my point: davidthegnome May 2014 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond May 2014 #21
I think it goes beyond religion ismnotwasm May 2014 #25
That entitlement is rooted in patriarchal religions theHandpuppet May 2014 #34
Yeah ismnotwasm May 2014 #35
It's like a rolodex of boys clubs. theHandpuppet May 2014 #36
You're right. davidthegnome Jun 2014 #37
Thank you for this post theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #38
This in the first real paragraph ismnotwasm May 2014 #17
because all men are animals and will fuck anything they can. seabeyond May 2014 #19
I am schooling my twenty something sons about this randys1 May 2014 #26
K&R. Not that all men are planning retaliation for not getting the sex they want, but Dark n Stormy Knight May 2014 #27
Now this, this is fantastic. redqueen May 2014 #28
"I cannot and will not feel sorry for them. " ha ha. i thought the same when i read it. i like your seabeyond May 2014 #29
Yeah, I'm so done being nice about this shit. redqueen May 2014 #30
Andrea Dworkin again ismnotwasm May 2014 #31
Thank you. She put it perfectly. nt redqueen May 2014 #32
dworkin... and again. agree with you both. nt seabeyond May 2014 #33
That speech is one of the most powerful things I have ever read. MadrasT Jun 2014 #39
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