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theHandpuppet

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18. All patriarchal religions must be suspect
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:06 PM
Jul 2014

Have all modern religions evolved from patriarchal cultures or have they simply been exploited to supplant the ancient matriarchy? Is this one of those chicken and egg debates? I can't say but I do know that all patriarchal religions have distorted and dismissed the role of women both culturally and historically. This is not a static process, either, as we are now witnessing in countries around the globe. Question is, just what is it we are witnessing? Is it patriarchal extremism or religious extremism?

Below is an article I was going to post the other day but decided against it as I thought it might appear OT for HoF but given our current discussion I think it provides an example apropos of the continuing de-evolution of women's status and roles in patriarchal religions.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/who-was-mary-magdalene-prostitute-sinner-apostle-of-the-apostles-1.1873591

Who was Mary Magdalene, ‘prostitute’, ‘sinner’, ‘apostle of the apostles’?
First to encounter the Risen Christ yet named ‘penitent’ until 1969
Tue, Jul 22, 2014

In a recent letter to The IrishTimes on the subject of mother-and-baby homes, Dr. Mary Mullaney wrote: “I visited the chapel [of Seán Ross Abbey] where the girls would have prayed daily. Over the altar is a stained-glass image of Mary Magdalene, the prostitute and sinner. But who was the real sinner?”

Indeed, who is the sinner? Today, July 22nd, is the feast day of Mary of Magdala, St Mary Magdalene. She is mentioned in all four canonical Gospels as discovering the empty tomb on her own or with other women disciples.

John’s Gospel also shows the Risen Christ sending Mary of Magdala to announce the good news of his resurrection to the other disciples (John 20: 10 to 18). Because of this, the early church called her “the apostle to the apostles”.

However, gradually and for a variety of reasons, the memory of Mary Magdalene changed in the western church, and became distorted from that of a faithful disciple and first witness of the resurrection to that of a repentant prostitute and public sinner.... MORE

And now ISIS has declared that it is FGM is mandatory where they hold sway. Squinch Jul 2014 #1
This is a frightening development theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #10
That is a really interesting fact. I did not know that. Squinch Jul 2014 #17
All patriarchal religions must be suspect theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #18
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You need to read a little more on the topic ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #23
No, it doesn't predate them, but then it was not part of Abrahamic practice. theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #24
^ THIS OP IS WHY I AM A FEMINIST ^ Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #2
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Bullshit. It has EVERYTHING to do with the patriarchy. Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #4
(pssst...the troll will be gone soon...don't bother feeding it) cyberswede Jul 2014 #5
Wonder whose sock it is? Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #6
It's some twerp from Discussionist trying to disrupt - but not very good at it. cyberswede Jul 2014 #7
Obvious troll is obvious, to use a tired meme. Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #9
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You're back already? Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #12
K&R redqueen Jul 2014 #8
Yeah, huh? ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #25
Then there is the subtle affectations in the western world. toby jo Jul 2014 #13
It amazes me that anyone can make this "subtle" comparison. n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #14
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Thanks, ISIS, for justifying all of Fox New's paranoia perdita9 Jul 2014 #15
Our dear friend "Message auto-removed" is very busy today in HoF. Squinch Jul 2014 #20
I would think they'd get bored after a while theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #21
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