Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
12. NSA Spying Crushes US Tech Companies in Emerging Markets (“An Industry Phenomenon")
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 07:18 AM
Nov 2013

From Testosterone Pit, an economics blog the DU Stock Market Watch threads pointed me to:

“Our top five emerging markets declined 21%,” Chamber said, “with Brazil down 25%, Mexico down 18%, India down 18%, China down 18%, and Russia down 30%.

“I’ve never seen that fast a move in emerging markets,” Chambers said. His industry peers were seeing the same thing. “Most of my CEO counterparts can almost finish my sentences in terms of what’s occurring,” he said. He even mentioned IBM. It’s “an industry phenomenon.”

The NSA’s reckless all-encompassing spying, and its hand-in-glove multi-billion-dollar collusion with US tech companies to accomplish it, is now wreaking havoc on these same tech companies. Revenues are getting crushed overseas. Emerging market governments and companies are looking at other options. Trust that has taken decades to build has evaporated. A study in early August estimated that the spying scandal would cost US tech companies $35 billion. Which might not even be enough for a down-payment: alone that 11% drop in Cisco’s stock today cost shareholders $16 billion.

It’s not a temporary issue. New revelations bubble to the surface all the time to complete the picture of a seamless, borderless, nearly perfect surveillance society. One dimension: the NSA and British GCHQ secretly break into the “clouds” of US companies to syphon off user data on a large scale. Illegal in the US. But the cloud is worldwide. Read….. NSA Secretly Breaks Into The Cloud Of US Tech Companies, Siphons Off Data, Fouls Up Revenues Overseas


I think this has to be filed under the "blowback" category. The relative silence of the tech industry on the issue has been rather astonishing. Germany is considering building its own internet backbone.

Another form of blowback: After the NSA revelations, who will listen to America on human rights? The comments are interesting as well. The author is heavily criticised for implying the US did have standing about human rights before Bush*.

Cross-posted in GD
International perspective antiquie Oct 2013 #1
Thanks! KoKo Oct 2013 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #4
"That Pesky NYT Article about LATEST NSA SPYING...that folks don't want to read:" rhett o rick Nov 2013 #5
"Majority Of Americans Want More Checks On NSA Spying" rhett o rick Nov 2013 #6
No Morsel Too Minuscule for All-Consuming N.S.A. - NYT rhett o rick Nov 2013 #7
Report: NSA spied on Israel, shared intelligence BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #8
Eavesdropping on our "Friends" 2banon Nov 2013 #10
Guardian Interactive - NSA Files Decoded - What The Revelations Mean For You. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #9
US govt intel researchers to ‘radically expand’ facial recognition capabilities BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #11
NSA Spying Crushes US Tech Companies in Emerging Markets (“An Industry Phenomenon") BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #12
Feinstein promotes bill to strengthen NSA's hand on warrantless searches rhett o rick Nov 2013 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Nov 2013 #14
'Royal Concierge': GCHQ Monitors Diplomats' Hotel Bookings BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #15
Judge: “NSA exceeded the scope of authorized acquisition continuously” rhett o rick Nov 2013 #16
Declassified Documents: NSA Wanted To Collect Geolocation Data BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #17
US, UK Struck Secret Deal to Allow NSA to 'Unmask' Britons' Personal Data BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #18
NSA slapped malware on 50,000+ networks, says report rhett o rick Nov 2013 #19
Losing track of mass surveilance revelations? rhett o rick Nov 2013 #20
Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits As Part Of Plan To Discredit 'Radicalizers' rhett o rick Nov 2013 #21
GUARDIAN: "NSA Furor Has Roots in US Internet Imperialism" rhett o rick Nov 2013 #22
Dutch intelligence agency AIVD hacks internet forums (Snowden doc on AIVD-NSA meeting) BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #23
NSA Opponents Want To Cut Off Utah Facility From Water Supply rhett o rick Dec 2013 #24
NSA gathering 5bn cell phone records daily (including location tracking) BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #25
New documents show how the NSA infers relationships based on mobile location data BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #28
ACLU: What The Government Could Do With All That Location Data BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #33
NSA leaks: Sweden spied on Russian leaders for US BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #26
Revealed: Spy Agencies' Covert Push to Infiltrate Virtual World of Online Games (Snowden/NSA) BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #27
NSA uses Google cookies to pinpoint targets for hacking BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #29
NSA chief on spying programs: 'There is no other way to connect the dots' rhett o rick Dec 2013 #30
By cracking cellphone code, NSA has capacity for decoding private conversations BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #31
NSA official floats possibility of striking a deal with Edward Snowden BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #32
European Parliament: Snowden Will Make Video Appearance BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #34
NSA Staffer: Snowden Didn't Dupe Coworkers Out of Passwords rhett o rick Dec 2013 #35
Secret information: The currency of power - Lars Schall interviews Thomas Drake (NSA whistleblower) BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #36
BREAKING: NSA paid US-company RSA to bug encryption software rhett o rick Dec 2013 #37
NSA leaks: UK and US spying targets revealed rhett o rick Dec 2013 #38
NSA spied on EU's anti-trust chief BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #39
Report Suggests NSA Engaged In Financial Manipulation, Changing Money In Bank Accounts: BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #40
Your USB cable, the spy: Inside the NSA’s catalog of surveillance magic rhett o rick Dec 2013 #41
NSA building a ‘quantum computer’ capable of breaking all forms of encryption BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #42
The NSA Reportedly Has Total Access To The Apple iPhone BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #43
The NSA Has A Way To Intercept Computers Mid-Shipment And Install Spyware On Them BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #44
Thomas Drake, NSA whistleblower speaks on his own ordeal & Snowden. BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #45
Government Lawyers Appeal Ruling That Threatens NSA Phone Surveillance Program rhett o rick Jan 2014 #46
The NSA refuses to deny spying on members of Congress BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #47
Experts withdraw from Internet security conference rhett o rick Jan 2014 #48
Former NSA whistleblowers plead for chance to brief Obama on agency abuses BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #49
More detail: "NSA Insiders Reveal What Went Wrong in letter to Obama" BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #51
DOJ files motion to block release of NSA info BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #50
Klayman is right regarding the violation of rights. Why does it have to be sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #53
N.S.A. Devises Radio Pathway Into Computers BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #52
NSA collects millions of text messages daily in 'untargeted' global sweep BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #54
Timeline of NSA domestic spying rhett o rick Feb 2014 #55
Exclusive: NSA infiltrated RSA security more deeply than thought - study rhett o rick Mar 2014 #56
List Of Americans Who Have Been Spied On will be ‘biggest’ disclosure yet Leopolds Ghost Jun 2014 #57
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Progressive Media Resources Group»Latest information on the...»Reply #12