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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Why I'm supporting the wildest, most radical left wing candidate: [View all]Gothmog
(145,631 posts)137. Washington Post-Opinion: Voters aren't playing along with the media narrative
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The mainstream media narratives persist: The Democratic Party has been taken over by the far left. Theres a war between the status quo Democrats who just want to get rid of President Trump and the radicals who want fundamental change. Leftists such as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) control the terms of the debate. Democrats want ideological agreement more than electability.
The problem with all of these takes is that there is little or no evidence that they correspond with reality. To the dismay of the pundits and the cable TV news execs who pine for high-decibel shouting matches between two evenly matched sides (Good ratings!), at this stage in the race there is extraordinary consensus around a moderate Democrat well-situated to beat Trump.
The latest Hill-HarrisX poll shows former vice president Joe Biden opening up a 32-point lead over Sanders, whose claim to the partys heart is evaporating before our eyes. The latest Morning Consult poll shows Biden expanding his share to 40 percent (up 4 points from the previous week) and Sanders tumbling to 19 percent (down from 27 percent in February). In other words, available evidence suggests that at present the predicted story lines arent emerging....
However, the gap is striking between the race that the mainstream media has been covering and the actual race to date. Rather than assuming that Sanders rules the roost and that African American voters are going to be the most progressive and most open to left-leaning newcomers, reporters should spend less time on Twitter and more time with regular voters. They would be surprised to find that they have been extrapolating from a small segment of super-progressive, mostly white Democrats. Their take is therefore not a very accurate representation of the party as a whole or of the current state of the race.
The problem with all of these takes is that there is little or no evidence that they correspond with reality. To the dismay of the pundits and the cable TV news execs who pine for high-decibel shouting matches between two evenly matched sides (Good ratings!), at this stage in the race there is extraordinary consensus around a moderate Democrat well-situated to beat Trump.
The latest Hill-HarrisX poll shows former vice president Joe Biden opening up a 32-point lead over Sanders, whose claim to the partys heart is evaporating before our eyes. The latest Morning Consult poll shows Biden expanding his share to 40 percent (up 4 points from the previous week) and Sanders tumbling to 19 percent (down from 27 percent in February). In other words, available evidence suggests that at present the predicted story lines arent emerging....
However, the gap is striking between the race that the mainstream media has been covering and the actual race to date. Rather than assuming that Sanders rules the roost and that African American voters are going to be the most progressive and most open to left-leaning newcomers, reporters should spend less time on Twitter and more time with regular voters. They would be surprised to find that they have been extrapolating from a small segment of super-progressive, mostly white Democrats. Their take is therefore not a very accurate representation of the party as a whole or of the current state of the race.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Yang seems radical, but without any political (Actual election) experience may be a long shot.
rgbecker
Feb 2019
#5
I like Yang too... though I look forward to having you come aboard the Bernie train
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#101
Based on past elections, not so much. 12% of Sander-tRump voters in 2016 vs 24% Hillary-McCain
CentralMass
Jul 2019
#151
Too bad the Democrat who brought healthcare to millions of poor children...
CrossingTheRubicon
Feb 2019
#8
and to top it off, just enough self-identifed progressives refused to vote for the Democratic
still_one
Mar 2019
#51
I realize that, but a "form" of Medicare for all has been proposed since 1943.
George II
Mar 2019
#47
Answer for deaths? What about the lives saved while we waited for Sanders to save us?
dawg day
Mar 2019
#60
We have a candidate whose "gaffe" was to whisper "This is a BFD" to his president...
Hekate
Jun 2019
#147
They called themselves that before deciding on the name Democratic leadership Conference. (DLC)
hedda_foil
Feb 2019
#13
I think it's entirely possible that Sanders himself doesn't think he can win.
Garrett78
Feb 2019
#24
Even if he becomes the nominee? If so, then I agree that isn't helpful at all.
Sapient Donkey
May 2019
#132
I'm eagar to hear more from Beto. His talk about "Taking a knee" was moving for me.
rgbecker
Feb 2019
#34
46% in the Florida exit poll said Andrew Gillum was too liberal for the state
Awsi Dooger
Feb 2019
#31
I wonder if after Bernie releases his tax return people will have anything to bitch about.
rgbecker
Feb 2019
#36
It so sad you aren't here to discuss Bernie's taxes. You came close though, you almost made it
Autumn
Apr 2019
#112
I agree, along with the other 4 or 5 running who have not released theirs yet.
vsrazdem
Apr 2019
#103
Yes, we do. I am getting tired of Bernie not showing his taxes. I still support him, but
vsrazdem
Apr 2019
#105
I agree, but the sooner the better. Primaries are not birthday parties, so there is bound to be
vsrazdem
Apr 2019
#107
Don't bother asking what I think if you are just gonna tell me what not to say.
MrsCoffee
Feb 2019
#39
If the Democrats hand the GOP the Socialist label to hammer on we are in trouble.
rgbecker
Mar 2019
#45
Good point. But we have no leader and no media savvy. Repetitious propaganda
Laura PourMeADrink
Mar 2019
#50
Here's what matters..what state those "none of the above" are from. If they are from WI MI and PA
Laura PourMeADrink
Mar 2019
#49
I'm excited about Beto too! The picture shows him younger than I thought, though.
rgbecker
Mar 2019
#84
I talked about "infighting" in another post..So, the proof is right here right now.
Stuart G
Mar 2019
#88
Bullshit. Actual elections, not polls or opinions, have shown that actual voters...
TreasonousBastard
Mar 2019
#94
I guess your worries are over. He doesn't have a chance of being the Democratic Candidate.
rgbecker
Apr 2019
#118
Nate is right that there is no way for sanders to get majority of delegates with 30% of primary vote
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#125
Could be the issue will change as the GOP comtemplates Trump's chances in 2020.
rgbecker
Apr 2019
#127
Washington Post-Opinion: If the economy keeps its momentum, 2020 will be Trump's to lose
Gothmog
May 2019
#128
Very interesting post. I think it's the best argument I've heard for Bernie Sanders yet.
mtnsnake
May 2019
#130
The GOP has large oppo file and would use this and other material if sanders was nominee
Gothmog
May 2019
#140
New CNN poll: A majority of Americans say they think President Trump is going to win a second term
Gothmog
Jun 2019
#142
He was a deadbeat dad who supported Communist dictators; he would be shredded in a general election
LongtimeAZDem
Jun 2019
#149