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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Change Versus Experience [View all]Gothmog
(145,236 posts)112. Washington Post-Opinion: Voters aren't playing along with the media narrative
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The mainstream media narratives persist: The Democratic Party has been taken over by the far left. Theres a war between the status quo Democrats who just want to get rid of President Trump and the radicals who want fundamental change. Leftists such as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) control the terms of the debate. Democrats want ideological agreement more than electability.
The problem with all of these takes is that there is little or no evidence that they correspond with reality. To the dismay of the pundits and the cable TV news execs who pine for high-decibel shouting matches between two evenly matched sides (Good ratings!), at this stage in the race there is extraordinary consensus around a moderate Democrat well-situated to beat Trump.
The latest Hill-HarrisX poll shows former vice president Joe Biden opening up a 32-point lead over Sanders, whose claim to the partys heart is evaporating before our eyes. The latest Morning Consult poll shows Biden expanding his share to 40 percent (up 4 points from the previous week) and Sanders tumbling to 19 percent (down from 27 percent in February). In other words, available evidence suggests that at present the predicted story lines arent emerging....
However, the gap is striking between the race that the mainstream media has been covering and the actual race to date. Rather than assuming that Sanders rules the roost and that African American voters are going to be the most progressive and most open to left-leaning newcomers, reporters should spend less time on Twitter and more time with regular voters. They would be surprised to find that they have been extrapolating from a small segment of super-progressive, mostly white Democrats. Their take is therefore not a very accurate representation of the party as a whole or of the current state of the race.
The problem with all of these takes is that there is little or no evidence that they correspond with reality. To the dismay of the pundits and the cable TV news execs who pine for high-decibel shouting matches between two evenly matched sides (Good ratings!), at this stage in the race there is extraordinary consensus around a moderate Democrat well-situated to beat Trump.
The latest Hill-HarrisX poll shows former vice president Joe Biden opening up a 32-point lead over Sanders, whose claim to the partys heart is evaporating before our eyes. The latest Morning Consult poll shows Biden expanding his share to 40 percent (up 4 points from the previous week) and Sanders tumbling to 19 percent (down from 27 percent in February). In other words, available evidence suggests that at present the predicted story lines arent emerging....
However, the gap is striking between the race that the mainstream media has been covering and the actual race to date. Rather than assuming that Sanders rules the roost and that African American voters are going to be the most progressive and most open to left-leaning newcomers, reporters should spend less time on Twitter and more time with regular voters. They would be surprised to find that they have been extrapolating from a small segment of super-progressive, mostly white Democrats. Their take is therefore not a very accurate representation of the party as a whole or of the current state of the race.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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That means nothing. As candidates drop out logically those number will chNge
Thekaspervote
May 2019
#51
But right now they are not going for Biden. He's still under 50 per cent, so
marylandblue
May 2019
#93
First of all, I said "most." Second, Sanders was always on his, out of step with others
marylandblue
May 2019
#92
No Bernie in the primary...general yes. Given the new polls, you are in the minority.
Demsrule86
May 2019
#2
the formula is pretty simple. get behind your chosen candidate bc they excite you. Not bc of
Kurt V.
May 2019
#12
Let me know when he offers something other than how much better he is than Trump.
BlueStater
May 2019
#53
I constantly ask his supporters whether he stands for anything other than being better than Trump
BlueStater
May 2019
#71
I had a whole thread asking what his appeal is and got one policy related response...
TCJ70
May 2019
#87
If the economy remains strong, trump can win in 2020 if we nominate a weak candidate
Gothmog
May 2019
#79
the candidate that generates the most enthusiasm, excitement, change call it what you want,
Kurt V.
May 2019
#7
Relationships with the press are something you cultivate behind the scenes.
marylandblue
May 2019
#34
If people think this country's government needs stabilizing and reconstituting, Joe's their guy.
ancianita
May 2019
#14
I absolutely believe we'll have it both ways. Joe's old, but he's never been backward
ancianita
May 2019
#26
Connect "fix" with change. Consider that I think change must not be for the sake of change.
ancianita
May 2019
#31
Agree! Having worked in the medical profession all my life good solid change always came from
Thekaspervote
May 2019
#56
There aren't any yet. And I think you know that. Gallup hasn't done a poll on the state of govt.
ancianita
May 2019
#33
That's kind of my point. But I stated it as a question since I wasn't sure.
marylandblue
May 2019
#35
Maybe polling about govt. will come later. But for now, we just have to tap into the ones we see.
ancianita
May 2019
#36
Interesting. Those transformative presidents began as candidates who tapped into change. I get it.
ancianita
May 2019
#68
Part of the theory is at the end of era, the last president is a "disjunctive" President
marylandblue
May 2019
#77
I appreciate this historical analysis. Most voters don't understand or think this, but feel it.
ancianita
May 2019
#80
Polls can ask whatever they want to ask, but ask the wrong question and you'll get a uselessanswer.
marylandblue
May 2019
#44
FYI: you might have said that to begin with. Your post does initially seem divisive
Thekaspervote
May 2019
#61
Sometimes saving the country might come first, because the way our branches are at war...
ancianita
May 2019
#38
If we pick the wrong candidate, we are headed for destruction anyway, even if win.
marylandblue
May 2019
#28
I want an establishment candidate. We are in CHAOS right now. FUCKING CHAOS.
themaguffin
May 2019
#81
Washington Post-Opinion: If the economy keeps its momentum, 2020 will be Trump's to lose
Gothmog
May 2019
#110