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Drunken Irishman

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Sun Jun 16, 2019, 07:38 PM Jun 2019

Interesting polling insight into why Biden might be leading - and why his message is what it is. [View all]

Digging a bit into the latest CBS News poll on the Democratic nomination and there are some telling numbers that may explain why A) Biden is leading and B) why his message is being crafted the way it is.

You can find the breakdown of the poll here.

Overall, Biden leads the field with 31% of the vote - Warren is second at 17 and Sanders 16. Harris is the only other candidate polling above ten-percent (right at 10%).

75% of Democrats think Biden will probably beat Trump. Only 2% think he's a long-shot. The only other candidate who comes closest in the 'will probably beat Trump' category is Sanders, and it's not very close. 51% say he probably would win.

This does hammer home the idea that Biden is perceived to be the candidate who can best beat Trump - and this is an important factor, as 78% of Democrats think beating Trump is extremely important when it comes to whether they support a candidate.

With that out of the way, here's a look at messaging and what could explain Biden's positioning nationally.

48% of Democrats want the nominee to focus only on issues and stay above the insults and ignore it. That's a significant number, but it's not a majority. In fact, 42% believe the Democratic nominee should fight back if insulted, though not start any insults. However, 9% want the nominee to take on Trump directly and lob insults themselves. Not a big number, but combined with the other 42% and a majority of Democrats want the nominee to go after Trump, either preemptively, or in retaliation - something I think Biden does well.

45% of Democrats want the nominee a progressive/liberal - which is significant, especially when only 27% want the nominee to be a moderate/centrist. Again, though, we're not seeing a majority here. 28% say it doesn't matter - and that's the key finding here. When you couple that with the 28% who want a moderate/centrist, it becomes clear - 55% of Democrats would be perfectly fine nominating a moderate. Conversely, 73% would be fine nominating a progressive. But at the end of the day, ideological purism isn't a deciding factor for a huge chunk of Democrats. Many progressives in the party are unlikely to be turned off by Biden if he wins the nomination, and that again plays into his strengths.

60% of Democrats also do not care what the candidate's age is - something that absolutely helps both Biden and Bernie. In fact, 9% say they want an older candidate (though, older is not a definitive age - just older in general terms). So, nearly 70% either want an older candidate or don't care what their age is. Youth is NOT necessarily an asset in the primary (like I think it was for Obama in 2008).

65% of Democrats wants the potential next Democratic president to work with Republicans to get things done - while only 35% want them to get things done without the GOP. This is significant because it goes to the heart of Biden's campaign messaging. And it seems to be the correct call.

69% of Democrats also want the focus to be on beating Trump in 2020 - not a candidate who talks about impeaching Trump.

Still, there are areas where Biden's message stands in contrast to the party - though, the divide isn't significant.

47% want the nominee to focus on returning the country the way it was before Trump - while 53% want a more progressive agenda than what was advanced under Obama.

Also, 67% of Democrats want a nominee who motivates Democrats who stayed home last go around, over 33% who want a nominee that attempts to convince Trump voters to vote Democratic.

Interesting numbers, regardless. I think it shows Biden's support is pretty strong, as his messaging does appear to be aligning with the party. Whether all that changes, though, remains to be seen.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Kinda surprised a 100% don't think so.. Cha Jun 2019 #1
Because without beating Trump . . . peggysue2 Jun 2019 #10
Or, because many Biden supporters are just as abusive as the Bernie Bros. plimsoll Jun 2019 #11
? zaj Jun 2019 #12
Well, basically called stupid plimsoll Jun 2019 #13
Polls suggest a few things... zaj Jun 2019 #14
Maybe so, but if you honestly expect people to support your candidate plimsoll Jun 2019 #15
I haven't seen the Biden attacks, but... zaj Jun 2019 #21
Agreed, plimsoll Jun 2019 #22
Agreed. zaj Jun 2019 #25
They also show us Lordquinton Jun 2019 #16
Except Biden's lead isn't slowly slipping away anymore. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #19
I wouldn't say anything like that to anybody. Cha Jun 2019 #24
a couple of people you were talking to? treestar Jun 2019 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author plimsoll Jun 2019 #41
What?! You're the one insulting Biden Supporters. Cha Jun 2019 #23
So other people make up your mind for you? treestar Jun 2019 #32
Any of them can beat "the president", but which can fire up voters is important because ... marble falls Jun 2019 #20
It is really way too early for all this polling Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #2
Excellent analysis. Nt BootinUp Jun 2019 #3
Thanks for the work. Educated me. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #4
K & R yonder Jun 2019 #5
Great analysis nt NYMinute Jun 2019 #6
Interesting polling Gothmog Jun 2019 #7
So lots of people think Biden will be able to work with Republicans just because he says Doitnow Jun 2019 #8
Actually Biden has negotiated with Republicans in the past. As detailed in a well emmaverybo Jun 2019 #26
Thank You for posting that on Biden's Cha Jun 2019 #28
Thank you for the link. Important and I realized this a.m. I left it out. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #30
You're Welcome.. I tracked Cha Jun 2019 #36
Thanks for the post. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #9
What's your insight into why his lead is slipping? Lordquinton Jun 2019 #17
Like many candidates, he received a boost and leveled off... Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #18
What happens when you go further back in data? Lordquinton Jun 2019 #39
K&R Tarheel_Dem Jun 2019 #27
That's a good analysis, I think. MineralMan Jun 2019 #29
We also need Dem majorities in congress IronLionZion Jun 2019 #31
The Electoral College is key. disndat Jun 2019 #34
Thanks a bunch for this. ☺ Sloumeau Jun 2019 #35
+1 grantcart Jun 2019 #37
As for "working with" McConnell's & Trump's gang, those who want that will find things have changed. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #38
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2019 #40
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