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200. Oh yes.. the usual suspects are out

Sat Aug 24, 2019, 01:08 AM

Aug 2019

in force with their "gaffes".. like that's some kind of magic word that's going to make Joe Biden go away.

Some have been trying for so long and so hard.. even before he officially announced. It's way past ridiculous. And, it didn't have to be anything real.. there was that time he supposedly crossed a picket line.. Horrors! When It wasn't even a damn picket line. It was a protest by BS supporters at a fundraiser for Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden: "Imagine if Obama had been assassinated" [View all] left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 OP

Oh for Christ's sake Joe. Why go there? dem4decades Aug 2019 #1

Seriously!! WTF?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #33

My thought exactly. It's not a gaffe but it shouldn't have been uttered. Just as with the... brush Aug 2019 #265

wtf? Does Biden have no internal filter? bluewater Aug 2019 #2

Where are Joe's handlers?! They need to put a stop to this awkward ad libbing!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #43

What was the point he was trying to make? n/t MarcA Aug 2019 #123

Not sure, but no worse than Hillary's similar comment about Obama. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #217

Joe. You don't have to SAY everything you THINK mahina Aug 2019 #184

I honestly don't understand how Biden is our front runner. Ace Rothstein Aug 2019 #3

More people support him than any other candidate. n/t Scurrilous Aug 2019 #7

Not here they don't... and the downward trend is evident. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #45

No, Joe gained a percentage point in the past few days while Harris lost one. Princetonian Aug 2019 #196

Oh okay... hadn't noticed, but, you're right. Maybe Joe will get his lead back... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #210

I doubt it but no worries. Princetonian Aug 2019 #228

Thanks!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #285

DU is not typical of Dem voters though. Chemisse Aug 2019 #227

For how much longer? True Dough Aug 2019 #54

That could also be a metaphor for Mayor Pete's campaign BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #101

Even if he's not the nominee True Dough Aug 2019 #124

Not if he doesn't get to a higher office. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #130

He will be coveted by the next administration True Dough Aug 2019 #141

Not if Pete keeps up the ageist language that underpins his rationale of why he should be POTUS. Princetonian Aug 2019 #178

I agree. Mayor Pete has a very bright future in secondwind Aug 2019 #173

It's democratic party Solomon Aug 2019 #203

"Democrat" party? cwydro Aug 2019 #205

No such thing as the Democrat Party. MrsCoffee Aug 2019 #240

Don't worry about the responses you got because of your minor mistake in semantics mtnsnake Aug 2019 #242

Nitpick? nt zackymilly Aug 2019 #296

I think he is a future star of the Party. Chemisse Aug 2019 #229

It's early yet. Pete can recover. Autumn Aug 2019 #244

Oh... there goes Bernie... now I see Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #114

Is that your imagery for Pete's relationship with the AA voters? Princetonian Aug 2019 #176

Wow.. you sure have a lot of Cha Aug 2019 #206

You don't say? Ace Rothstein Aug 2019 #129

I think the poster know that! The question is why. mobeau69 Aug 2019 #263

Not Biden is about 2x Biden. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #267

I don't get it either. Watching the video was almost surreal. Seems to be a small venue, Autumn Aug 2019 #19

I have no favorite in this primary... pangaia Aug 2019 #34

No. It really occurred. I don't even know what to say about it. The whole video was Autumn Aug 2019 #38

A whole generation energized through political assassinations + trigger happy suppression of rights lunasun Aug 2019 #133

its everyday now questionseverything Aug 2019 #36

Did you watch the video? Is anyone on his team paying attention? Autumn Aug 2019 #44

i can't get the video to play , i had read about it earlier on my news feed questionseverything Aug 2019 #48

'he definitely needs some young blood influencing his campaign' Celerity Aug 2019 #62

It's gone beyond that now. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #121

No, it's the same shit, different day. Princetonian Aug 2019 #188

if i liked his policies better i would care less about the gaffes questionseverything Aug 2019 #213

I think the party leaders know what's what... why we need Bernie or Elizabeth!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #47

Daily Joe bashing OP is cherrypicked clickbait not reality-based. Princetonian Aug 2019 #187

Thanks to daily OPs always featuring media whores' cherrypicked clickbait aimed at Joe. Princetonian Aug 2019 #246

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I usually just read the news article and quotes and not watch his speeches. Watching this was Autumn Aug 2019 #252

Name recognition at this early stage. (Remember "Joementum"!) nt tblue37 Aug 2019 #29

Reflected glory BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #32

Name recognition mainly. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #53

I understand Obama's feelings about Joe, but he's earned his shot as a loyal VP... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #162

I don't either. I guess it's partly because of the media pining for a geriatric showdown mtnsnake Aug 2019 #55

It's still early dflprincess Aug 2019 #112

'Familiar and safe.' You nailed it. Chemisse Aug 2019 #233

Two words... progressoid Aug 2019 #117

he was Obama's VP and Obama is popular among Democrats JI7 Aug 2019 #168

On this one I'll kindly and respectfully say "no thank you." Devil Child Aug 2019 #4

Oh boy... NRaleighLiberal Aug 2019 #5

Surely you can't be serious, Joe dalton99a Aug 2019 #6

Uh,...all I have to go on is... that link....... pangaia Aug 2019 #8

here left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #11

Thanks,.. He wanted to be a senator by the age of 30. He just made it...... :)) pangaia Aug 2019 #30

Why do this? NT enough Aug 2019 #9

Maybe the most tone-deaf remark so far this campaign season? n/t lordsummerisle Aug 2019 #10

And it's dangerous bluewater Aug 2019 #13

I'm sure Joe meant well... but I hear ya! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #214

Not a good look, that's for sure... no idea what he was thinkin. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #211

more ... left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #12

Jeeze Joe! JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Aug 2019 #23

Also this melman Aug 2019 #22

"We finally were in a position where we started to begin the women's movement." pangaia Aug 2019 #57

Holy fuck melman Aug 2019 #14

Over 40 kids were not shot at Kent State on a beautiful lawn. 4 were killed 9 were injured at Autumn Aug 2019 #25

That video is pretty unsettling melman Aug 2019 #85

The man looked and sounded exhausted. This is not okay. Autumn Aug 2019 #91

Yeah, maybe Joe should rest up before hitting the campaign trail again... no shame in that. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #218

LOL You always say this. Joe looked serious and somber as befitting the tragic context. Princetonian Aug 2019 #238

With all due respect that not true. I don't always say that. I have since I watched this video .nt Autumn Aug 2019 #239

You're saying my eyes are lying? I look forward to your next iteration. Princetonian Aug 2019 #256

If you think that I think you're lying who am I to disagree with you? You are the one saying that Autumn Aug 2019 #261

Uh huh. Princetonian Aug 2019 #262

I see you can't discuss this so looks like this back and forth is over. Autumn Aug 2019 #269

I heard a longer clip of the speech. He was contrasting the "drop out" attitude of 1967 highplainsdem Aug 2019 #16

IT'S DANGEROUS. Making excuses is simply wrong. bluewater Aug 2019 #18

I said I wish he hadn't brought it up. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #26

Thank you. Corgigal Aug 2019 #97

I was of the perfect coming of age age in 1968.. born in 1943, so you can imagine... pangaia Aug 2019 #40

The knee jerk and high hopes by some desperate, deeply frustrated folks in the thread is amusing. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #105

".. High hopes.. " is right.. I always read a BannonsLiver Cha Aug 2019 #198

THE HILL TROLLS DEMOCRATS sharedvalues Aug 2019 #179

It would have been catastrophic. Many of us constantly pondered the possibility. Hilary alluded emmaverybo Aug 2019 #17

Jesus. H. Christ. RhodeIslandOne Aug 2019 #20

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OMG! Biden apologists gonna need to "swallow a little bit" more, lol Baclava Aug 2019 #24

Joe reminisces some more about the 70's Ponietz Aug 2019 #28

Did Warren ever say who she voted for President in the 70's? Princetonian Aug 2019 #183

100% confidence she won't get the decade wrong if asked Ponietz Aug 2019 #236

If she did and corrected herself immediately afterwards, it's fine. Do you know who she voted for? Princetonian Aug 2019 #241

Your guy was way out of line with his comment Ponietz Aug 2019 #249

Tweets from people who were there disagree with you... Princetonian Aug 2019 #254

All those are from paid Biden staffers, right? Ponietz Aug 2019 #264

Ask them. One man was an attendee and called out Cilizza as a lying media whore. Ask him. Princetonian Aug 2019 #268

Their Twitter feeds indicate they work for Biden Ponietz Aug 2019 #270

This is the first tweet about what Joe said written by an attendee. He slams "false controversies". Princetonian Aug 2019 #271

Where do you get that this guy, with 19 followers, was an attendee? Ponietz Aug 2019 #272

Well, at least Joe never voted for Reagan. Twice. That's embarrassing. Princetonian Aug 2019 #182

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False Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #273

I was talking about Joe but now that you mention Warren's voting history, I checked and found... Princetonian Aug 2019 #274

Here you go Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #281

She's been asked about it. She declined to answer. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #278

Here's her voting record Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #280

And you provide no proof of you rclaim Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #282

here is your proof, please stop pushing debunked misinformation on Warren Celerity Aug 2019 #293

OMG!! We got the Context!!! Cha Aug 2019 #192

It's bad, def, but not a game changer either... pretty much par for the course. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #215

Another day another mob of gulping Biden apologists come running to swallow as one, lol Baclava Aug 2019 #221

Trying to smear an empathetic teaching moment? Content matters. Intent matters. Princetonian Aug 2019 #224

Teaching moment? Telling those poor kids 40 people were shot at Kent State? Baclava Aug 2019 #294

Thanks, the photo is great. The kids look just right, considering the topic: focused and serious. Princetonian Aug 2019 #297

I do notice that... fair point! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #284

We do not need another old man dealing with his enough Aug 2019 #27

Well said, enough. mtnsnake Aug 2019 #231

SMDH, really SMDH Celerity Aug 2019 #31

The crowd didn't react because they understood what he meant OKNancy Aug 2019 #35

Agree. There was no sign from the video that anyone there was shocked or offended. I do still highplainsdem Aug 2019 #49

Yeah, just look at the response among DUers True Dough Aug 2019 #60

I see quite a few perennial Biden critics expressing outrage once again. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #73

The number of Biden critics will continue to grow True Dough Aug 2019 #76

We'll see. But since I don't consider any of the other current candidates even half as qualified highplainsdem Aug 2019 #83

Indeed Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #98

More Insults and Wishful Thinking.. your Cha Aug 2019 #208

I wonder how many outraged by thiss were bowing before will Pitt when he called President Obama a "P still_one Aug 2019 #87

There are a few who have completely lost credibility treestar Aug 2019 #248

I see a lot of people hoping this is the one that finally does him in. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #109

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Awww BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #132

Uh huh. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #128

And his point was? cwydro Aug 2019 #207

Where's the video? Were the attendees as outraged as DUers? Princetonian Aug 2019 #37

No. He is getting the Hillary treatment OKNancy Aug 2019 #41

Every day is character assassination day for Biden. Sickening. NT emmaverybo Aug 2019 #52

Cillizza's getting slammed on Twitter for taking the remark out of context. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #70

Like this?.. Cha Aug 2019 #92

Thanks, Cha. Cillizza for sleezy. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #172

Hi Cha! treestar Aug 2019 #251

Yeah, they're so transparent.. Good Cha Aug 2019 #288

That is the whole point still_one Aug 2019 #94

This MustLoveBeagles Aug 2019 #42

here, and the in-person crowd's reaction is unimportant overall, as millions are seeing or Celerity Aug 2019 #50

Thanks, Celerity. After watching the video, I thought Joe made a thoughtful point about... Princetonian Aug 2019 #61

beyond the 'what if' question on Obama being assassinated, Biden said over 40 kids were shot Celerity Aug 2019 #72

He misremembered. Like many, I have no idea how many died.Barack once said he visited all 57 states. Princetonian Aug 2019 #78

Obama's '57 states' was a simple misspeaking. He is/was a brilliant constitutional law scholar. Celerity Aug 2019 #88

Well stated! True Dough Aug 2019 #135

Meanwhile, Pete will always be at zero percent with AA voters. Princetonian Aug 2019 #190

Are you serious? Trump is the poster boy for crazy stupid insane. Princetonian Aug 2019 #140

What is ageist? I used no reference to age. I am strictly speaking Celerity Aug 2019 #148

Here... Princetonian Aug 2019 #157

Again, not ageist. I am speaking to ability. nt Celerity Aug 2019 #175

Ageist bigotry is not cool. Neither are euphemisms for it. Princetonian Aug 2019 #180

Good thing I am not doing then. Celerity Aug 2019 #185

You clearly do not understand the term "projections". Princetonian Aug 2019 #194

This all has zero to do with Pete. You are taking far too a tribalistic Celerity Aug 2019 #201

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When you put it like that... it does make one have to think twice. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #220

There was even a song about it. cwydro Aug 2019 #237

Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young made sure we remembered loyalsister Aug 2019 #84

I'm 23 years old, raised in London since a toddler, yet I know that song to the point it's the main Celerity Aug 2019 #96

You are entitled to your opinion Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #99

I appreciate that, thank you Thekaspervote Celerity Aug 2019 #111

You know you're making headway True Dough Aug 2019 #136

Rude Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #144

Hey, Thekaspervote! You know some are secretly envious of your candidate's popularity when... Princetonian Aug 2019 #146

I just let it bounce off my wing... no damage Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #158

It's my opinion True Dough Aug 2019 #150

Yes you are! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #155

How's Pete going to do in SC? Joe will easily make 15% with the backing of Obama Mamas like me. Princetonian Aug 2019 #156

Here's the video link thesquanderer Aug 2019 #67

Can't wait to canvas for this guy. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #39

What a rotten thing to say about Obama who is soley responsible for Biden being the front runner mtnsnake Aug 2019 #46

Stop already with the outrage. None of the attendees were upset. They understood Joe's point. Princetonian Aug 2019 #51

You call them all? ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #56

You're complaining about outrage? If Bernie Sanders said it this place would erupt for weeks mtnsnake Aug 2019 #58

I never join in the daily Bernie bashing OPs. Princetonian Aug 2019 #64

There was a video ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #69

Nonsense. Don't create strawman arguments to make trouble. Princetonian Aug 2019 #71

Thanks Mom! ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #75

I'm sure they were courteously silent True Dough Aug 2019 #63

Watch the video. Joe was making a pretty poignant point about how tragedy spurred his political... Princetonian Aug 2019 #68

Biden keeps feeding the "media whores" all kinds of fodder True Dough Aug 2019 #74

I could care less. Joe is being Joe. If you want to score points, BFD. Princetonian Aug 2019 #79

Like I said True Dough Aug 2019 #81

SOS call to Berlin crazytown Aug 2019 #90

How much support does Pete have among AA voters again? How'd that townhall go? Princetonian Aug 2019 #100

When it's recognized by enough Dems that Joe is not a viable candidate True Dough Aug 2019 #122

Actually, Harris' troubling history as DA and AG make her an unviable candidate not Joe. Princetonian Aug 2019 #134

Carrying forward the "Obama legacy" isn't the only option True Dough Aug 2019 #137

Using the language of ageist bigotry will not help Pete's cause. Princetonian Aug 2019 #145

That's a weak defense True Dough Aug 2019 #154

What's your defense for Pete's many mistakes as mayor in dealing with the AA community? Princetonian Aug 2019 #159

Pete has taken ownership of shortcomings True Dough Aug 2019 #166

"Shortcomings"? The AA community of South Bend would laugh at that. Too little too late for them. Princetonian Aug 2019 #171

What does Indianapolis have to do with Buttigieg? nt Celerity Aug 2019 #209

Why do you continue to bash other candidates? cwydro Aug 2019 #243

Irony is dead. Princetonian Aug 2019 #259

Figured you wouldn't answer. cwydro Aug 2019 #260

Your comment is so ageist. I will take his kind of experience to fix what's wrong anyday Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #169

Oh true dough.. your personally insulting Joe Biden is Cha Aug 2019 #292

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #253

Here's what the polls say about "where all that support will go." Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #161

why would sanders supporters second choice be biden? questionseverything Aug 2019 #291

Per usual, more demise of mr Biden's campaign Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #107

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You didn't tell me how much AA voters support Pete. Got any numbers? Princetonian Aug 2019 #149

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Joe was letting kids relate to the horror he felt when MLK and Bobby Kennedy were assassinated. Princetonian Aug 2019 #164

Ostriches are some of the smartest and strongest birds on the planet. This bird knows exactly Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #165

Oh too too funny, my comment here was to a picture a commenter put up of an ostrich with her Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #283

hahaha!! You sure there will be enough to go around?! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #286

It is very hard to get young people engaged in a collective psychological experience from our emmaverybo Aug 2019 #103

I love the fact that Joe can get real. He can bring our history alive. He can talk the real talk and emmaverybo Aug 2019 #174

What do you expect them to do? melman Aug 2019 #77

Yes. In this day of entrenched social media, we'd have heard something by now. Princetonian Aug 2019 #82

Shit, really an attendee posted something on Twitter ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #93

That's about right. Attendees don't have an agenda. Princetonian Aug 2019 #108

Everyone has an agenda ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #113

At this point i'm all about an Obama/ Biden ticket. Michelle and Jill. dem4decades Aug 2019 #59

Joe would be better served... SergeStorms Aug 2019 #65

he is trying to target the 55 plus crowd, as that (plus 40yo + A-A's) are his main base of support Celerity Aug 2019 #80

Joe is second only to Bernie in the 30-44 age group. How did you like his two terms as VP? Princetonian Aug 2019 #89

I am not cherry-picking anything, I am applying discernment as I personally see fit to do Celerity Aug 2019 #106

Misunderstanding here. The media whores are cherrypicking not you, Celerity. Princetonian Aug 2019 #115

+1 Celerity Aug 2019 #119

Peace. Princetonian Aug 2019 #120

You are entitled to your opinion Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #110

Hillary Clinton says, "WTF, Joe. I would have been 44" aikoaiko Aug 2019 #66

Yep! 4139 Aug 2019 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author crazytown Aug 2019 #86

I'm getting tired of people taking things out of context - OhZone Aug 2019 #102

Oh well is right ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #116

Give me a break, Joe. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #104

Give yourself some context. Cha Aug 2019 #191

It's another gaffe. The context still makes it an unfortunate thing to say. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #193

Nope.. that's your opinion.. and you always Cha Aug 2019 #199

I find this interesting because during the 2008 primary season, HRC underthematrix Aug 2019 #118

She did not reference Obama. A reporter did. betsuni Aug 2019 #138

You're right. However, let's be logical about this. They (MSM) were trying to push her out of the underthematrix Aug 2019 #142

Yes. It must have been irresistible to the reporter. What a scoop! betsuni Aug 2019 #160

She did not have to. I heard her and it was obvious, but never mind. I mean come on. But she emmaverybo Aug 2019 #147

She spent years as First Lady in Arkansas and Washington getting death threats. betsuni Aug 2019 #163

Fine. Whatever. I never said she was willing Obama's assassination. The reporter did not secretly emmaverybo Aug 2019 #177

I got her point there too treestar Aug 2019 #255

It was a HYPOTHETICAL statement Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #125

And what the hell does this mean? "None of you women would know this, a couple of men may remember" progressoid Aug 2019 #131

I wondered about that, too. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #195

According to Huffpost it was an attempt at a "stale compliment" to the women in the room mtnsnake Aug 2019 #277

That's exactly what it was melman Aug 2019 #279

Jesus. progressoid Aug 2019 #298

Doubt it's as bad as portrayed. It referred to before election. But, still, why even say it? Hoyt Aug 2019 #139

Video makes it clear upthread. Princetonian Aug 2019 #153

Well look at the context. I taught college Hoyt. I brought it home to them with contemporary emmaverybo Aug 2019 #189

Thx for your experienced voice. History is brutal but has a great deal to teach us. Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #212

and that he doesnt know 4 were killed at kent state questionseverything Aug 2019 #219

What the hell. That was just plain stupid. vsrazdem Aug 2019 #143

Watch the video upthread. Here's a tweet slamming clickbait media whore Chris Cilizza... Princetonian Aug 2019 #151

I don't need to watch the video. There is no scenario where the words Obama and assassination vsrazdem Aug 2019 #202

It was a empathetic teaching moment. Context matters. So does intent. Princetonian Aug 2019 #223

Shows me his durability tirebiter Aug 2019 #167

Indeed! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #170

It was the opposite of a truth. Biden asked the audience to "imagine" the assassination pnwmom Aug 2019 #197

Oh yes.. the usual suspects are out Cha Aug 2019 #200

Joe... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #181

That's not good. CentralMass Aug 2019 #186

Watch the video. Princetonian Aug 2019 #225

Yikes. cwydro Aug 2019 #204

Joe was creating an empathetic teaching moment for the teenagers and younger crowd there. Princetonian Aug 2019 #226

Biden was traumatized as all democrats were by the assasinations. applegrove Aug 2019 #216

So, one of the explanations I've seen is he was "trying to get a younger audience to understand" melman Aug 2019 #222

Joe was trying to relate the pain & horror he felt at 18 when his political heroes were assassinated Princetonian Aug 2019 #230

Yes, they need it to be explained. betsuni Aug 2019 #232

So you quit deliberately misinterpreting the point. treestar Aug 2019 #257

"deliberately misinterpreting the point" melman Aug 2019 #275

I don't support Biden saying that, but... Mike Nelson Aug 2019 #234

The SS has gotten so sophisticated treestar Aug 2019 #258

Tweets from people who were there & replies to "sleazy headline" Princetonian Aug 2019 #235

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I know one person's reaction. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2019 #276

Obama and Biden have a special friendship. demmiblue Aug 2019 #287

Anyone as intelligent as President Obama knows how dumb it is to fall for cherrypicked click bait. Princetonian Aug 2019 #290

What a strange statement! MoonRiver Aug 2019 #289

Then Joe would have been President. I wonder if Joe ever dreamed of being President when he was VP? zackymilly Aug 2019 #295