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PatrickforO

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34. Yes, I'm writing a series of essays about the corrosive effect the shareholder primacy
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:49 AM
Aug 2019

doctrine has had on workers, consumers, communities and our environment.

A couple of thoughts:

There is nothing in the law that requires shareholder primacy. That doctrine is nothing but a theory. It is such because most of the players agree it is so. That's it.

As evidence, I call your attention to the corporate lawyer and law professor Lynn Stout, who in 2012 wrote a book called "The Shareholder Value Myth: How Putting Shareholders First Harms Investors, Corporations, and the Public." This is a sound book, written to refute the shareholder primacy doctrine. In the forward, Stout mentions that this 'ironclad' doctrine is relatively new - prior to about 1980, corporate officers tended to a much wider view of the purpose of a corporation. Then, the Chicago School arises, with Milton Friedman and postulates that shareholder primacy is THE way to go. So we had Enron, the BP Gulf disaster, and so on.

More people are wising up to this issue. Consider Warren's August 2018 legislation called 'The Accountable Capitalism Act.' This legislation, which would not pass in this congress, nor be signed into law by Trump, forces that fiduciary responsibility to expand to other stakeholders, not merely shareholders. I just saw Rep. Katie Porter on Maher, and she spoke about overturning that doctrine.

And, of course, against that backdrop, we have the Federal Reserve Act, which has created a system of scarcity that doesn't have to be. More people are now thinking about, and embracing Modern Monetary Theory in this vein.

The problem is, wasupaloopa, that our current system is simply unsustainable. I mean, morality aside, if we don't do something substantial to reorganize ourselves around human need as opposed to human greed, we will go extinct. That might not be a bad thing, I guess, because if you look at the effect sapiens have had on this planet (check Yuval Noah Harari's book Sapiens), you see that if we went extinct right now, at this very moment, ALL other species - flora and fauna - would actually be better off. That's saying something.

So, yeah, I'm an economist who tends to democratic socialism - in the sense I genuinely believe that people need to have a say in policies that affect them, at the local, state and national level. To me, that is the definition of democracy. Now, in this republic, we do that, in theory, through those we elect. Unfortunately, as Senator Whitehouse says, we need to get all this dark money and corporate corruption out of DC and our state houses, because it is a cancer.

I think Bernie has been misunderstood when he calls for a 'political revolution.' What he is saying is that when we all get fed up enough and stand up, demanding some change, that change will happen. And, you know, it can either be through this system or a bloody worldwide revolution. But that change is now an existential necessity for our species.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Of course they are. As are the candidates question everything Aug 2019 #1
Single payer Meadowoak Aug 2019 #2
It bothers me that so much appears to be riding on our and candidates' perceived proposals elleng Aug 2019 #3
So agree with you-- Lulu KC Aug 2019 #8
PLUS, it all depends on post-election Lulu KC Aug 2019 #11
EXACTLY, the process BEGINS with a new POTUS. elleng Aug 2019 #13
1/20/09-3/23/10 Lulu KC Aug 2019 #16
Agree this is problematic. But the process begins with congress. Hortensis Aug 2019 #32
Thanks, highplains! Cha Aug 2019 #4
Thx for posting!! Health insurance last I knew was in the forefront of many voters minds Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #5
Yes. And both Warren and Sanders favor a change only 22% of Democratic voters want. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #9
i think it means questionseverything Aug 2019 #6
No, it doesn't mean that. And you can't run on Medicare For All lin the GE and win. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #12
sure you can qazplm135 Aug 2019 #26
Work out a plan between A and B. blm Aug 2019 #7
Trump isn't going to have to explain his plan if voters think our party's plan is Medicare For All highplainsdem Aug 2019 #14
I trust Warren's coherence will prevail. It's her superpower gift. blm Aug 2019 #21
If one can get elected on the M4A "negotiating stance." That's highly questionable, now. Hoyt Aug 2019 #20
Wait until big healthcare, big pharma, and big insurance get done framing the public option Celerity Aug 2019 #10
It's kind of a joke, you know, and the joke is on all of us. PatrickforO Aug 2019 #15
No. I don't want Medicaid For All. But I do want universal health coverage. For all. riverine Aug 2019 #17
Well, I rejoice with you in your wealth. That's great. It really is. PatrickforO Aug 2019 #22
Great post, Patrick. I want UHC for every American. riverine Aug 2019 #23
so when u r 65 u wont use it? questionseverything Aug 2019 #30
you know right now I have universal health coverage qazplm135 Aug 2019 #28
Do you even know what Medicare is? It reads like you don't. wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #27
Fine. But why, when the Brits have a National Health Service, PatrickforO Aug 2019 #29
You can't compare us with them. They do not have our history of health care nor do they have even a wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #33
Yes, I'm writing a series of essays about the corrosive effect the shareholder primacy PatrickforO Aug 2019 #34
Quite simply people want to have access to more than one health insurance coverage option.... George II Aug 2019 #18
Exactly. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #19
Thanks, George! Cha Aug 2019 #24
Couldn't find the MOE for the subset of 298 for question 17 Fiendish Thingy Aug 2019 #25
Warren hasn't yet been held accountable for her health care plan 5starlib Aug 2019 #31
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