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In reply to the discussion: U.S. Voters Back Medicare Expansion but Not Eliminating Private Insurance [View all]Gothmog
(145,225 posts)80. How long will Warren dodge on health care and taxes??
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None other than late-night host Stephen Colbert made it painfully clear that Warren is ducking. He asked twice about whether taxes will go up and practically begged her to level with voters. Ive listened to these answers a few times before," he said, "and I just want to make a parallel suggestion to you that you might defend the taxes, perhaps, youre not mentioning in your sentence: Isnt Medicare for All like public school? There might be taxes for it, but you save money sending your kids to school, and do you want to live in a world where your kids arent educated? Do you want to live in a world where your fellow Americans are dying?
Lets be clear: If Colbert and debate moderators can figure this out, her opponents in the primary and, more important, the Republicans in the general election will hit her again and again.
It is not simply a matter of the viability of her health-care plan. It goes to her core critique of the moderates: They are too timid and too scared to do the big things. Well, perhaps they have figured out what the big things cost and dont see they are economically or politically viable.
Warrens brand is truth-telling about the rich and powerful, but you simply cannot get the rich and big corporations to pay for all of it. The Medicare-for-all plan introduced by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is presumably the basis for Warrens idea despite all her other plans, she has little specifics on health care. Sanderss plan posits a number of funding sources and specifies a premium for families (a typical family of four earning $50,000, after taking the standard deduction, would pay a 4 percent income-based premium to fund Medicare for All just $844 a year saving that family over $4,400 a year. Because of the standard deduction, families of four making less than $29,000 a year would not pay this premium). Now, there are a lot of people who consider themselves middle-class who might have to pay more, but at least Sanders makes some effort to spell out the costs and the savings.
Lets be clear: If Colbert and debate moderators can figure this out, her opponents in the primary and, more important, the Republicans in the general election will hit her again and again.
It is not simply a matter of the viability of her health-care plan. It goes to her core critique of the moderates: They are too timid and too scared to do the big things. Well, perhaps they have figured out what the big things cost and dont see they are economically or politically viable.
Warrens brand is truth-telling about the rich and powerful, but you simply cannot get the rich and big corporations to pay for all of it. The Medicare-for-all plan introduced by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is presumably the basis for Warrens idea despite all her other plans, she has little specifics on health care. Sanderss plan posits a number of funding sources and specifies a premium for families (a typical family of four earning $50,000, after taking the standard deduction, would pay a 4 percent income-based premium to fund Medicare for All just $844 a year saving that family over $4,400 a year. Because of the standard deduction, families of four making less than $29,000 a year would not pay this premium). Now, there are a lot of people who consider themselves middle-class who might have to pay more, but at least Sanders makes some effort to spell out the costs and the savings.
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U.S. Voters Back Medicare Expansion but Not Eliminating Private Insurance [View all]
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
Sep 2019
OP
Actually, it's not "horseshit" if Americans believe that M4A would mean that a public plan
ehrnst
Sep 2019
#67
Biden's plan deals with part time workers. That would be part of the ACA expansion.
Blue_true
Sep 2019
#21
Knowing the difference between impossible and possible makes one a much better lawmaker.
ehrnst
Sep 2019
#42
I don't see Senator Sanders effectively combatting the misinformation surrounding
ehrnst
Sep 2019
#24
The way I read it Republican and Democrats were polled. I didn't find a link in the article to get
Autumn
Sep 2019
#10
That is not true...those who get good insurance though work would no longer have it.
Demsrule86
Sep 2019
#48
We have no idea what the health care in a government plan will be like...and no matter what people
Demsrule86
Sep 2019
#68
Please do some reasearch into how Medicare for All will actually cover, and how it will work
ehrnst
Sep 2019
#69
Two-thirds of registered voters support letting anyone buy into Medicare, similar to an idea that..
Cha
Sep 2019
#7
I can promise you that if elimination of private insurance is attempted by fiat,
Blue_true
Sep 2019
#17
I am afraid so. Elimination of private insurance by fiat like Bernie is proposing is a total
Blue_true
Sep 2019
#20
Most people don't really understand that his plan will eliminate private insurance
ehrnst
Sep 2019
#23
Employers that just send their employees into a public plan with nothing else should
Blue_true
Sep 2019
#73
The ACA has specific eligibility guidelines for employers to send their employees to the exchanges
ehrnst
Sep 2019
#82
You make many excellent points. But I believe that expanding the ACA income cap,
Blue_true
Sep 2019
#83
NBC/WSJ poll shows Biden's healthcare stance (optional Medicare buy-in) much more popular
Gothmog
Sep 2019
#16
Medicare for all...all would be on Medicare...not a plan they chose...by definition it takes away
Demsrule86
Sep 2019
#50
A beautiful demonstration of the attitude that is turning the U.S. into a third-world country.
athena
Sep 2019
#47
Do you understand that unions gave up pay and other things for their good health care that
Demsrule86
Sep 2019
#51
Nope.. Working hard, sacrificing, and planning for something is 'elitist' and makes one selfish
The Mouth
Sep 2019
#58
Which is probably the reason why Warren has yet to release her health care bill
question everything
Sep 2019
#34
It is too late for that....the flip flop commercial write themselves if she changes her positions...
Demsrule86
Sep 2019
#53
Will Medicare-for-all hurt the middle class? Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders struggle with quest
Gothmog
Oct 2019
#92
73% of people favor [the] public option that would keep private insurance in place
Gothmog
Oct 2019
#94