but the Obamas are political rockstars, (Reply #53)

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Wed Dec 4, 2019, 09:29 AM

radius777 (3,446 posts)

53. but the Obamas are political rockstars,

and the point is it shouldn't require that, when you have white candidates of mediocre political talent currently in the top tier, in a field that started off with several appealing PoC candidates.

Aside from the issues with IA/NH, I think white leftists (not just Russian bots) on social media (twitter, facebook, youtube, etc) play a huge role in tearing down PoC candidates, who are resented as the changing face of the party.

Condi, Colin etc were merely tokens and could have never won a GOP primary, despite being talked about in the media in hypothetical general election matchups.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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59 replies	Author	Time	Post
Let's lay out some inconvenient truth about Kamala Harris... [View all]	brooklynite	Dec 2019	OP
...	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#1
.	TidalWave46	Dec 2019	#8
Sorry, disagree. Kamala's problem is the increasingly fascistic RW.	Hortensis	Dec 2019	#55
She is out of the race so therefore	DURHAM D	Dec 2019	#2
and what does the candidate have to do with the OP's opinion? nt	msongs	Dec 2019	#4
Right. Tell me !	pangaia	Dec 2019	#10
How mature.	phleshdef	Dec 2019	#16
Geeesh!	Raine	Dec 2019	#17
the op is not "piling on"	rampartc	Dec 2019	#51
This is not inconvenient. This is analysis	ismnotwasm	Dec 2019	#3
She just wasn't that interesting of a candidate	madville	Dec 2019	#5
Absolutely none of that is true	mcar	Dec 2019	#22
White identity politics is what defines America.	radius777	Dec 2019	#44
+1000	BuffaloJackalope	Dec 2019	#6
Because sexism/racism are often blamed because the person has no control over either.	oldsoftie	Dec 2019	#9
Exactly! nt	Raine	Dec 2019	#18
Yes	squirecam	Dec 2019	#30
None of the candidates of color are at the top,	radius777	Dec 2019	#45
But every poll including her shows Michelle Obama beating the socks off of trump.	oldsoftie	Dec 2019	#49
but the Obamas are political rockstars,	radius777	Dec 2019	#53
Her "problem" with black support is that a plurality went to Biden	wellst0nev0ter	Dec 2019	#46
They don't WANT to, IMO.	blm	Dec 2019	#11
The media has attacked Biden relentlessly...so not true...voters can look at EC maps and see what	Demsrule86	Dec 2019	#29
She ran a terrible campaign.	The Valley Below	Dec 2019	#15
Exactly	Andy823	Dec 2019	#19
All sounds true to me	bucolic_frolic	Dec 2019	#7
I think your third point is far and away the most important.	The Mouth	Dec 2019	#12
Paragraph four	Wellstone ruled	Dec 2019	#13
She ran a poor campaign	left-of-center2012	Dec 2019	#14
A problem with being identified with a candidate in this forum,	TomSlick	Dec 2019	#20
Is this necessary?	mcar	Dec 2019	#21
"No other candidate in the world ever had managerial problems, right?"	brooklynite	Dec 2019	#23
How nice for you	mcar	Dec 2019	#24
Yes, it makes my decision making a lot easier...	brooklynite	Dec 2019	#25
How nice for you	mcar	Dec 2019	#26
Well, it DOES sound nice!	oldsoftie	Dec 2019	#32
I hear you	MustLoveBeagles	Dec 2019	#31
Thank you!	mcar	Dec 2019	#33
Still, it's a loss. I'm sorry to see her go.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Dec 2019	#27
Damn, could you at least have let the body get cold?	bitterross	Dec 2019	#28
I've seen plenty of alternative "reasons" posted as to why she failed, so I'll stick to reality...	brooklynite	Dec 2019	#35
You stick to the $$$ bottom line, that's your reality. n/t	MerryBlooms	Dec 2019	#38
If it makes you feel better, I don't think Bloomberg or Steyer will be our nominee.	brooklynite	Dec 2019	#39
Has Jack-Shit to do with what I said. $$$ your bottom line. N/T	MerryBlooms	Dec 2019	#40
And I said that the candidates with $$$ won't be the nominee.	brooklynite	Dec 2019	#42
Good grief, that's what you think this conversation is about? We're done, $$$. N/T	MerryBlooms	Dec 2019	#47
OK, so what the heck ARE you talking about, with the "$$$ " thing?	LongtimeAZDem	Dec 2019	#48
Ha!	oldsoftie	Dec 2019	#50
Sen. Harris would be a great spokesperson for whoever is our nominee. nt	oasis	Dec 2019	#34
She never recovered from Tulsi Gabbard gutting her on stage in the debate. Downhill since then. nt	kelly1mm	Dec 2019	#36
We will see	MFM008	Dec 2019	#37
May be true but her big turning point was when she	Laura PourMeADrink	Dec 2019	#41
I thought at the time she made a huge mistake, having t-shirts already printed	katmondoo	Dec 2019	#58
So much of this is just pure and simple human nature	Laura PourMeADrink	Dec 2019	#59
This message was self-deleted by its author	dalton99a	Dec 2019	#43
Fair comments.	OnDoutside	Dec 2019	#52
You know, there are about 22 other candidates who are going to "lose"	dawg day	Dec 2019	#54
✔️	blm	Dec 2019	#56
I seldom disagree with you but certainly do in this case. NO need to make these comments.	riversedge	Dec 2019	#57

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