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SunSeeker

(51,564 posts)
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:55 AM Dec 2019

Winners and losers from the December Democratic debate [View all]

Winners

Joe Biden: I’ve had him as a loser in just about every debate thus far. He’s been halting, often confused and hasn’t shown himself to be the kind of debater Democrats will want going toe-to-toe with President Trump. Thursday night was better. It wasn’t flawless, but he kept things on the rails, had flashes of good humor, and was deft with tough moments he could see approaching, including about his age.

He dealt particularly well with the toughest question he got, which was about a recent Washington Post report on how leaders, including those in the Obama administration, misled the country about the status of the war in Afghanistan. He said he argued against nation-building there and emphasized disagreements with the Pentagon about things like the troops surge. And he’s got documents to back that up. He had previously struggled when asked to own particular elements of the Obama legacy, but not Thursday.

Biden also described how he connects with voters, including by talking like a child who stutters — something he struggled with when he was younger. President Trump’s former press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, appeared to not pick up on what Biden was actually doing and ridiculed him on Twitter, which could be a lasting moment from this debate. Sanders later apologized and deleted that tweet.

Perhaps most importantly for him, as the candidate who leads almost all of the national polls — and has in recent weeks reasserted that lead — the other candidates mostly gave him a pass. Even when the topic was conducting high-dollar fundraisers, most of the heat was trained on South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg, and when Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) seemed to want to press the issue on Biden, he was bypassed. Suddenly, we saw the Joe Biden who dealt with Paul D. Ryan in the 2012 vice presidential debate. Will he stick around, though?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/19/winners-losers-december-democratic-debate/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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K&R nt NYMinute Dec 2019 #1
Interesting.. Losers: Bernie Sanders.. Cha Dec 2019 #2
being dismissive is one of bernie's major flaws IMO nt msongs Dec 2019 #7
I agree.. Cha Dec 2019 #8
Yes, I think this Biden PatSeg Dec 2019 #3
And, Biden has had a really Cha Dec 2019 #4
Joe is back in top form PatSeg Dec 2019 #5
And, I'm so wonderfully Cha Dec 2019 #6
Good to know. Mme. Defarge Dec 2019 #10
I really wasn't going to watch PatSeg Dec 2019 #18
im like you..but i didnt watch this one either. i dont like the confrontations. samnsara Dec 2019 #27
Most people don't like it PatSeg Dec 2019 #28
So glad to hear good reports coming out of the debate. I don't watch them, and quite frankly.... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2019 #9
I don't watch them, either, Tarheel.. Cha Dec 2019 #11
I'm right there with you Cha. I don't see the point in these monthly pissing contests. It only... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2019 #12
That's a good way to put it.. Cha Dec 2019 #13
biggest winner... myohmy2 Dec 2019 #14
NO.. the WaPO in the OP says BS was a "Loser".. Cha Dec 2019 #15
Was that his answer to education, women's issues,... TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #17
I could not believe that Mediate had Biden as a "loser". He looked great, strong and he WAS strong hlthe2b Dec 2019 #16
So wha't their agenda?! Cha Dec 2019 #19
No idea... hlthe2b Dec 2019 #20
They have BS in the Loser column.. Cha Dec 2019 #21
Yes, but I can only post 4 paragraphs in the OP. Thanks for your additions! SunSeeker Dec 2019 #22
Right.. I just wanted Cha Dec 2019 #23
LOL. Perfect. SunSeeker Dec 2019 #24
.. Cha Dec 2019 #25
Joe can walk into office and from MINUTE ONE...know his job and what to do next.. samnsara Dec 2019 #26
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