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bluewater

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35. Nothing happens in a vacuum.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:51 PM
Dec 2019

Last edited Sun Dec 29, 2019, 07:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Especially foreign policy.

That's why simplistic sound bites about complicated and intertwined foreign policy actions are worse than worthless.

Mayor Pete choosing to attack Joe Biden, whom I am a huge critic of btw, instead of stating his own foreign policy vision looking forward was Pete going for the cheap sound bite instead of a substantial answer differentiating his views from Biden's, at least that how it came across to me.

Mayor Pete's continued attempt to denigrate "Washington experience", meaning national level experience, because he lacks it compared to other candidates is simply not working and is counter productive. Honestly, it comes across as desperate and a case of "sour grapes".

Since adopting this overly combative strategy against other candidates, Mayor Pete's standing in the polls has declined, as indicated by The Economist's Polling Model, 538's Polling Model, and RCP POLLS Poll Tracker:

https://projects.economist.com/democratic-primaries-2020/

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/national/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Looks like Biden is going to win Iowa. gulliver Dec 2019 #1
Remember when Mayor Pete was America's sweetheart... so to speak? bluewater Dec 2019 #2
In your opinion - what is the worst US foreign policy decision in the last 37 years? Terry_M Dec 2019 #5
That's the problem Pete has, he's only 37 years old. bluewater Dec 2019 #8
I feel like you're trying to dodge Terry_M Dec 2019 #14
I feel you are moving the goal posts. bluewater Dec 2019 #19
The inaction in Rwanda did not happen in a vacuum. StevieM Dec 2019 #34
Nothing happens in a vacuum. bluewater Dec 2019 #35
Sorry, yes I did move goal posts Terry_M Dec 2019 #59
For me, the SINGLE worst US foreign policy decision anywhere close to the past 37 years BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #67
I think you're wrong on this... Mayor Pete is 100% correct. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #52
If Biden wins Iowa, the primary is largely his to take. bearsfootball516 Dec 2019 #27
That would certainly be a feather in his cap... but Joe is going to lose Iowa InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #53
It looks like the delegates for Iowa will either be split three or four ways. TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #68
Forget it Mayor Buttigieg. This kind of stuff got you deep IN the hole. Hortensis Dec 2019 #3
Both Harris and Warren went for that 'kind of stuff' - it did not work for them either empedocles Dec 2019 #7
:) Almost all have out of desperation. Stupid to keep it up. Hortensis Dec 2019 #11
"Warren went for that 'kind of stuff'" crazytown Dec 2019 #16
Good point...Biden has taken more incoming from Trump than from all of our candidates combined BeyondGeography Dec 2019 #18
Biden was running in the wrong primary? Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #48
Your comments are well thought out and sensible. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2019 #15
:) Done. You're right. I meant to but forgot. Hortensis Dec 2019 #22
Well said and quite accurate. The vote was to give W maximum leverage to force compliance The Valley Below Dec 2019 #20
Revisionist history is so easily debunked BeyondGeography Dec 2019 #23
Thank you ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #24
And your post proves its own claim. We all have a duty Hortensis Dec 2019 #32
There was a lot of political posturing by D's who voted for IWR BeyondGeography Dec 2019 #36
Yes, " to give ... the authority to use force." Stop picking Hortensis Dec 2019 #39
Bush and the GOP are responsible for the war...period. As for Biden the point was he came to Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #49
I think Pelosi voted correctly. David__77 Dec 2019 #28
Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #37
Thank you. betsuni Dec 2019 #40
Anyone voting for the AUMF knew they were voting for a blank check Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #41
To believe these hostile deceptions is to serve the Republicans. Hortensis Dec 2019 #50
Which hostile deceptions? Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #62
That is your opinion...mine differs. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #51
I hold all politicians accountable for their votes nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #61
I don't hold Democratic politicians responsible for what the GOP does.... Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #64
+1,000,000 highplainsdem Dec 2019 #46
Pete is right evertonfc Dec 2019 #4
Score one for Pete BeyondGeography Dec 2019 #6
He is making an excellent point. Joe941 Dec 2019 #9
Yes Joe...Mayor Pete is 100% RIGHT...NO QUESTION ABOUT IT!! Was Biden's absolute worst InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #29
Pete is right. zentrum Dec 2019 #10
Pete is correct Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #12
Death rattling from an overly eager politician realizing that his elected career is ending. SaschaHM Dec 2019 #13
A fact is a fact. crazytown Dec 2019 #17
On this issue, Pete is dead wrong. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #21
You support the 2003 invasion of Iraq? Renew Deal Dec 2019 #31
I supported giving the president the leverage to force compliance with UN Resolutions The Valley Below Dec 2019 #33
You were and continue to be dead wrong Renew Deal Dec 2019 #43
No. Quite to the contrary. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #47
Sometimes, removing the dictator is the even worse outcome Polybius Dec 2019 #66
Most Democrats in the house opposed the resolution, including Pelosi. David__77 Dec 2019 #54
Pete's on the money here AngelicaHora Dec 2019 #25
Particularly cheap shot. Not impressed. OnDoutside Dec 2019 #26
Biden also supported the bankruptcy bill Renew Deal Dec 2019 #30
Nonsense....bankruptcies still go through...and it would have been much worse if the GOP alone Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #56
I differ with Pete on many things but on this I 100% agree. I also disagree that authorizing Autumn Dec 2019 #38
Pete: Okay, I was in a Wine Cave. But at least I didn't do a war!!!1111 betsuni Dec 2019 #42
You gotta have a war to get a war photo for your resume dalton99a Dec 2019 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Dec 2019 #45
That's certainly NOT what Mayor Pete was saying!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #55
It wasn't a good decision on anyone's part Lulu KC Dec 2019 #57
More context. David__77 Dec 2019 #58
so did Hillary, but it's time to move on and focus on the future AlexSFCA Dec 2019 #60
The arrogance of the Mayor of South Bend Mme. Defarge Dec 2019 #63
This helps Biden tremendously NYMinute Dec 2019 #65
It seems to me that Mayor Pete can start planning the shutdown of his Prez Campaign & say bye to a Pachamama Dec 2019 #69
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