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39. Define "nearly"
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 08:55 PM
Dec 2019
Bernie supports nearly all of what Guttenberg supports
Define "nearly" I've seen no evidence of this. Do you have any?

There seems to be a definitely failure to communicate when it comes to things like this. Just today, in fact, someone tried to tell me that BS votes with the Democratic party 99% of the time. (A number that's often repeated but which has no semblance to fact.)

Creating a waiting period that was going to become obsolete was a waste of time and resources and wouldn't save many if any lives.
I simply cannot support someone who views such things so flippantly and casually... as if those lives that weren't saved weren't very important or significant.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Mahalo, Fred Guttenberg.. Cha Dec 2019 #1
+10000 Pachamama Dec 2019 #103
Mahalo to you, Pachamama! Cha Jan 2020 #146
Happy New Year Cha! Pachamama Jan 2020 #154
Excellent wish for Cha Jan 2020 #157
Needless to say, he presses the issue. 😂 TheBlackAdder Jan 2020 #191
Right Cha Feb 2020 #238
Good points. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2019 #2
Mr Guttenberg is determined.. Cha Dec 2019 #4
Mr. Gutenberg is correct. That is indeed a RW/NRA gun lobby talking-point. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #6
Fred Guttenberg has called out Sanders before.. Cha Dec 2019 #14
Apparently Fred Gutenberg is making a lot of BS supporters a little testy... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #16
A little? ehrnst Dec 2019 #136
To be honest with you... a different word came to mind... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #137
I'm not a Bernie supporter The Mouth Dec 2019 #140
Many people share your feelings. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #141
I don't care if they do or not The Mouth Jan 2020 #144
The more who care and share... the better odds we have that Trump won't pick any more USSC justices. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #167
Fred Guttenberg is talking about the Primary. Cha Jan 2020 #175
Good The Mouth Jan 2020 #176
Maybe reread his tweet. He is not supporting Bernie in the primary. emmaverybo Jan 2020 #226
That's too bad.. I stand with Fred Guttenberg. Cha Jan 2020 #148
In case anyone didn't know who Fred Guttenberg is: George II Dec 2019 #3
More from Fred Guttenberg on Sanders.. Cha Dec 2019 #5
The families and friends of the victims of the Sandy Hook shooting were also disrespected by Sanders George II Dec 2019 #10
I remember that.. unthinkable what Cha Dec 2019 #15
Disqualifying. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #22
An update from FG.. which comes as no surprise whatsoever.. Cha Jan 2020 #158
Yes, not surprising whatsoever. George II Jan 2020 #159
In fact.. PREDICTABLE. Cha Jan 2020 #162
Those comments were crude and woefully ill-informed. He's sidestepping. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #60
Tone deaf. Cha Dec 2019 #71
Jaime. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #8
Beautiful family, she! Thank you so much for their pic! Cha Dec 2019 #38
Fred sure wishes we didnt know who he is, as in if this didnt happen in the first place his Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #46
Amen. George II Dec 2019 #49
Exactly Cha Feb 2020 #239
Cha, thanks for posting this. Sloumeau Dec 2019 #7
... Cha Jan 2020 #150
I Fixed the "Chambi". I have no idea where that came from. I blame possessed autocorrect. :) eom Sloumeau Jan 2020 #151
It's quite alright. I Cha Jan 2020 #155
Sirota is being an asshole again. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #9
Reality is starting to set in with some in the Sanders campaign leadership team BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #21
I wish! Cha Jan 2020 #188
+1 Cha Feb 2020 #233
Fred Guttenberg.. Cha Feb 2020 #252
Yes, Fred Guttenberg does have excellent reasons Cha Jan 2020 #178
I am shocked to see David Sirota accusing Guttenberg of hating Bernie. Sloumeau Dec 2019 #11
yeah.. that's the only go to they have.. when Cha Jan 2020 #180
Remind me again why i would support a candidate who hires Briana Joy Gray and David Sirota? still_one Dec 2019 #12
This. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #13
Mahalo for the pic of Jaime & her father, Fred.. here's an update Cha Jan 2020 #164
This is disgusting. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #165
And this is why I can't support you, Fred Guttenberg. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #17
That sounds punitive nt Cary Dec 2019 #18
Punitive isn't the word I'd have chosen... but it's safe. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #19
Is Guttenberg running for something? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #23
No, but he's pushing for gun control laws. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #25
Bernie Sanders and the Brady Bill... a review. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #28
Bernie supports nearly all of what Guttenberg supports these days. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #35
Define "nearly" NurseJackie Dec 2019 #39
I don't have much time for this, but here you go. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #55
I trust Fred Guttenberg to know what he's talking about.. Cha Dec 2019 #77
trust through tweets. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #78
Keep laughing.. Fred Guttenberg is exaclty right about BS.. Cha Dec 2019 #118
As absurd as mistrust through tweets LanternWaste Jan 2020 #161
thank you! Cha Jan 2020 #207
"Nearly"? Cha Jan 2020 #217
Very glad he has evolved. betsuni Dec 2019 #119
But rogan says BS is "insanely consistent". Cha Jan 2020 #213
People who say that don't want to think of Bernie as a politician. betsuni Jan 2020 #215
Or the dreaded "Establishment" Cha Jan 2020 #225
I trust Fred Guttenberg on this.. not BS. Cha Jan 2020 #189
He's a guy expressing his opinion. He is free to do that. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #29
Of course he can. So can I about his opinions and politics. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #32
Sure, but he doesn't deserve to be trashed by a dishonest, vindictive bombthrower The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #33
Exactly. Cha Feb 2020 #243
So you would punish him for not being for Bernie Sanders Cary Dec 2019 #34
Its not that he doesn't support Bernie, its the framing that Bernie is opposed to gun safety laws aikoaiko Dec 2019 #36
I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but you did not refute my summary Cary Dec 2019 #123
You don't have to give me the benefit of the doubt. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #124
I don't have to do anything Cary Dec 2019 #129
Fred Guttenberg knows BS' record. Cha Jan 2020 #212
I CLEARLY see the difference aikoaiko... so do others. The problem is, this involves Bernie... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #202
Fred Guttenberg doesn't want Sanders to be the nom.. I agree. Cha Feb 2020 #248
Fred Guttenberg doesn't like BS' past Cha Feb 2020 #230
Express away.. I'll take Fred Guttenberg's opinion Cha Jan 2020 #193
Who famously said: George II Dec 2019 #45
That's probably why he didn't say that death in VT is not the same thing as death in LA or Chicago aikoaiko Dec 2019 #68
"Guns in Vermont Are Not the Same Thing As Guns in Chicago or Guns in Los Angeles" Cha Jan 2020 #192
Bernie has not always been good on guns...why wouldn't Guttenberg be honest? And the GOP Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #65
Thank you. Paka Dec 2019 #81
if bernie wants to point to one staged pic from 50 year ago to prove mopinko Dec 2019 #111
+1 betsuni Dec 2019 #115
There are 2 falsehoods in your post. Guess which ones scipan Dec 2019 #125
are you calling me a liar? mopinko Dec 2019 #135
You posted something that is not close to accurate. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #138
No there are NOT. Cha Jan 2020 #218
+1 sheshe2 Dec 2019 #127
Then I guess we can forget dad, he only lost his baby girl. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #37
Yes I do support gun control, but I wouldn't do it by smearing Bernie as anti-gun safety. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #41
Fred Guttenberg does Not "smear" BS.. Cha Dec 2019 #50
I keep waiting for that old worn-out chestnut: "Guns don't kill people. People kill people." NurseJackie Dec 2019 #51
Good for Fred Guttenberg calling out BS for his avoiding Cha Dec 2019 #61
Everyone who is serious about reducing gun violence is also talking about mental health treatment aikoaiko Dec 2019 #52
But that's Not all they should be Cha Jan 2020 #149
And Bernie isn't only talking about mental health in the context of gun violence. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #153
BS did then and that was Fred Cha Jan 2020 #156
I do not see a smear. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #53
Where's the smear? He said only that he won't support Bernie The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #59
The smear is that Bernie doesn't care about gun safety. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #64
BS' voting record is open to the public Cha Jan 2020 #206
That's exactly true! Cha Dec 2019 #116
Not supporting BS's stance on gun control MontanaMama Dec 2019 #105
Yes! betsuni Dec 2019 #109
This message was self-deleted by its author aikoaiko Dec 2019 #114
They blow it up with their accusations.. Cha Dec 2019 #117
Precisely, MontanaMama.. Cha Feb 2020 #253
"They can't stop us"??? Who the eff is THEY? MontanaMama Feb 2020 #254
yeah.. not good Cha Feb 2020 #255
Someone recently told me... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #44
Sigh sheshe2 Dec 2019 #128
Good time to kick this Cha Feb 2020 #234
Is Fred Guttenberg running for office? TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #43
And, this is WHY I Do Support Fred Guttenberg FOR Cha Dec 2019 #48
I'm guessing Fred Guttenberg doesn't care. Cha Jan 2020 #179
We Support Fred Guttenberg. Cha Jan 2020 #196
Imagine being a speechwriter/journalist who doesn't know pnwmom Dec 2019 #20
Oh, he knows. He just doesn't care. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #24
"I absolutely cannot support @BernieSanders" myohmy2 Dec 2019 #26
Guttenberg isn't posting on DU. He opposes Sanders as a primary candidate, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #30
That's not what he said. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #31
Thank you!!! sheshe2 Dec 2019 #42
Yeah, you "think" on that and get it Straight what Fred Cha Dec 2019 #57
"Yeah, you "think" on that..." myohmy2 Dec 2019 #97
Keeping thinking.. Cha Dec 2019 #98
False premise LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #169
Yes, but haven't you heard?! When it comes to BERNIE, an entirely different standard applies!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #204
I stand with Fred handmade34 Dec 2019 #27
Kind of a silly place to be standing... Chicago1980 Dec 2019 #87
That makes 2 of us. orangecrush Dec 2019 #40
I disagree with Bernie on some gun issues. Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #47
Fred Guttenberg wants what's Cha Jan 2020 #143
DU rec...nt SidDithers Dec 2019 #54
"By the way, remind me again, is Bernie a Democrat or an independent?" PJMcK Dec 2019 #56
Well... there's this. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #63
Nothing else is needed Zeus69 Dec 2019 #89
Oh, there's more. There's a clip (a debate? a town-hall?) where he's... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #95
Thanks for posting this, Cha! K&R! highplainsdem Dec 2019 #58
Bernie has been fighting the good fight for over 50 years ritapria Dec 2019 #62
+1 Paka Dec 2019 #85
Wow all the Bernie bashers together in one thread! LiberalLovinLug Dec 2019 #66
NO.. all those Supporting Fred Guttenberg's Fight For Cha Dec 2019 #73
So, Mr. Guttenberg, guillaumeb Dec 2019 #67
Ask him again if he actually becomes our party's nominee... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #72
fred is a one issue activist. Understandably so. he's a hero of mine which is very few. Kurt V. Dec 2019 #69
Because a person has an issue that they see as most important doesn't Blue_true Dec 2019 #99
Exactly. So no one can dismiss it .. as Cha Dec 2019 #107
Cha, you seem to be fully aware of the double standard that is used Blue_true Dec 2019 #133
Fred Guttenberg most certainly is Cha Dec 2019 #108
K&R! nt TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #70
gee, another trumpster's opinion, who cares? nt yaesu Dec 2019 #74
The guy loaths Trump. Blue_true Dec 2019 #100
I hope he would support Bernie over... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #75
That's Not what he's saying.. this is the Primary. Cha Dec 2019 #76
This is from Fred's tweet: JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #79
Too bad.. Fred Guttenberg is telling why he doesn't BS Cha Dec 2019 #82
I have no clue how you are reading that as a threat. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #131
Yeah, that wasn't a nice way to describe Cha Dec 2019 #132
IKR?! sheshe2 Dec 2019 #134
Perfectly said, she! Cha Jan 2020 #142
Only if sanders is the nominee Gothmog Dec 2019 #94
Distortion much. Blue_true Dec 2019 #101
Hope youre right, but then its Bernie we're talkin bout;would be a shame, but not a surprise if PUMA InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #205
Okay... Rob WA Dec 2019 #80
The kind of bullshit argument we don't need. Chicago1980 Dec 2019 #83
Fred Guttenberg is talking about the Primary.. Cha Dec 2019 #96
This is the Primary! IT's Not Fred Guttenberg Cha Jan 2020 #199
You can't win them back. You can't. So stop saying that Bernie can. paleotn Dec 2019 #84
Please someone fill me in on what and which GOP voters Bernie can woo? Every puke I know is hair on UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #86
The First of Many McKim Dec 2019 #88
Parkland was totally negligent.....stop blaming Bernie Sanders!! skh500 Dec 2019 #90
I strongly disagree Gothmog Dec 2019 #93
Bernie needs to answer for his past votes on gun legistlation. Blue_true Dec 2019 #102
Shame on you.. Fred Guttenberg did NOT say Cha Dec 2019 #110
Well, yeah, he kind of did: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #171
I truly admire and respect Fred Guttenberg Gothmog Dec 2019 #91
GRRRRR Me. Dec 2019 #92
There are certainly reasons to not support Bernie TheFarseer Dec 2019 #104
Fred Guttenberg does his homework.. Cha Dec 2019 #106
K&R betsuni Dec 2019 #112
I'm with Fred. n/t Tarheel_Dem Dec 2019 #113
K&R brer cat Dec 2019 #120
With various possible reasons and not recognizing his name, Hortensis Dec 2019 #121
David Sirota just loves to be spanked n/t PhoenixDem Dec 2019 #122
sirota is a divider.. Cha Dec 2019 #130
.. Cha Jan 2020 #183
Yeah, well, neither can I... in the primary. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #126
As will I; though if it comes to that, we'll likely lose the whole thing LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #170
Fuck. You. Fred. The Mouth Dec 2019 #139
Really? MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #145
I am presuming he means in the GENERAL election The Mouth Jan 2020 #147
I understand and support Fred Guttenberg Gothmog Jan 2020 #152
Fred is not alone. R B Garr Jan 2020 #160
A response from Fred Guttenberg Gothmog Jan 2020 #163
Don't see too many lectures in here. redqueen Jan 2020 #166
I really think that the attacks on Mr Guttenberg are inappropriate Gothmog Jan 2020 #168
Mahalo, Goth.. Cha Jan 2020 #172
Hey Cha Gothmog Jan 2020 #173
As do I.. a grieving father who puts Cha Jan 2020 #174
Jesus- Fred! will you please just STOP! James48 Jan 2020 #177
No, I do NOT want Fred Guttenberg to stop Cha Jan 2020 #181
I would hope that if Bernie gets the nomination that he will change his mind. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #182
Quibbles? The Valley Below Jan 2020 #184
K Cha Jan 2020 #185
K&R RandySF Jan 2020 #186
Who is surprised that sanders supprters are attacking this fine man Gothmog Jan 2020 #187
His choice, just as it's my choice to disregard anything Guttenberg has to say... Devil Child Jan 2020 #190
Is Stein-supporting Sirota the right person to kvetch about tishaLA Jan 2020 #194
If he means in the primary, that's his right The Mouth Jan 2020 #195
I love this ad Gothmog Jan 2020 #197
Thank you for this, Goth Cha Jan 2020 #198
I really admire Fred Gutenberg Gothmog Jan 2020 #200
I would definitely vote for Bernie in the General - OhZone Jan 2020 #201
It concerns me that he's the GOP choice for Dem candidate. ehrnst Jan 2020 #203
Bernie's from Vermont democrattotheend Jan 2020 #208
We all know that. Cha Jan 2020 #209
The attacks by sanders supporters on this man disgust me Gothmog Jan 2020 #210
Yep. And that feeling is growing fast. Amimnoch Jan 2020 #211
Mahalo, Amimnoch.. I just Updated the OP Cha Jan 2020 #221
Thanks for that update! They're dowright insulting imo. Amimnoch Jan 2020 #222
Threats? Cha Jan 2020 #224
So he'd vote Trump over Sanders or not vote at all? Gore1FL Jan 2020 #214
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2020 #216
Fred Guttenberg-sanders is again showing that dealing with gun violence is not a priority. Gothmog Jan 2020 #219
omg.. I should UPDATE OP.. Cha Jan 2020 #220
You are welcomed Gothmog Jan 2020 #223
I feel the same.. as a parent. Cha Jan 2020 #227
My heart bleeds for this man Gothmog Feb 2020 #228
I know, Goth.. Thank you so much for Cha Feb 2020 #229
When I saw that it was this father who spoke out, I knew why Gothmog Feb 2020 #231
Mahalo, Cha! It's me AgadorSparticus. Hope you have been well. Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #232
Aloha! Cha Feb 2020 #237
I am also glad that Biden discusses sanders' sad record Gothmog Feb 2020 #235
He's right, you know? I feel the same way. Fred speaks for me. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #236
These attacks by sanders supporters are sad Gothmog Feb 2020 #240
JHC.. I didn't know they went that far. Cha Feb 2020 #241
Understandable Bradical79 Feb 2020 #242
Here is another reason to not support sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #244
Wow.. this needs to go Viral! Cha Feb 2020 #245
I am pissed by this stunt Gothmog Feb 2020 #246
It's a stupid stunt.. Retweeted Fred's tweet.. Cha Feb 2020 #247
Has sanders condemned this stunt yet? Gothmog Feb 2020 #249
I support Fred's incredible advocacy to #EndGunViolence ! Gothmog Feb 2020 #250
Thank you.. Cha Feb 2020 #251
Fred is worried about down ballot candidates Gothmog Feb 2020 #256
Excellent info... Thank you, Fred.. Cha Feb 2020 #257
+1 dalton99a Feb 2020 #258
Fred has some good comments here Gothmog Feb 2020 #259
Thank you, Fred.. Retweeted! Cha Feb 2020 #260
Fred Guttenberg endorses Joe Biden Gothmog Mar 2020 #261
Oh Wow.. this should be an OP Cha Mar 2020 #262
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