Saying NO ONE likes or likes working with Bernie is a lie --- Proof

[Rilgin]

45. Your View is better since you note that it is your personal opinion.

I will give you a counter view. The concept of intransigence and the inability to work with people is exactly the attacks on Bernie I am responding to.

I will give you some counter facts. This ideological unpragmatic person voted for Obamacare. So obviously his full on support for Single Payer Medicare for all did not prevent him from compromising his vision for an immediate good for some people. That is actually his history of working with people.

The posting of memes by surrogates and supporters is exactly what I object to. All campaigns not just Bernies. The difference is that I do not see only one campaign participating. In addition, the concept that a candidate can control his or her supporters opinions, posts and arguments is pretty scary to me. The attacks on Bernie have been pretty inauthentic and based on in your words lies. This thread started from my reaction to someone supporting another candidate supporting a claim of Hillary's that "Noone" likes or likes to work for him. I posted proof that this is just a lie with ulterior motives. The goal posts have changed to some or most. However, he was the chairman of the progressive caucus for years and people joined and worked with him. The goal post changed to people work with people they don't like which implies they have to work with him. He was an independant from Vermont. He could do nothing for people who work with him at the time. He was not in charge of the money spigot or assignments. People worked with him obviously because the wanted to work with him. And people do not want to work with people who they think don't work well with others unless they are forced too --- their boss or someone who has something they need. For Bernie, the progressive caucus made him Chairman 8 years in a row even though he had no institutional power. This is certainly proof that his caucus wanted to work with him because they actually liked and wanted to work with him.

I will not even answer those who just want to move goalposts. However, your post is slightly different, it gives your personal reasons which are fine. We should distrust all politicians. I just hope you can add some distrust into the image the Bernie attackers try to paint of Bernie and his supporters. To every supporter, their own candidate is the victim of scurrilous attacks by the other candidate and the other candidates supporters. They view their own attacks as justified because they are "true" about that candidate or supporter group and the attacks against their favored candidate or his or her supporters as utotally unfair or untrue. I actually support Warren in this primary for a few reasons. However, I love Bernie and supported him in the last election. However, despite having a wife, 2 daughters, voting for 2 women senators, 1 woman congressman and working for 1 female local supervisor, I was attacked by a poster as being sexist or misogynist. Should I ascribe that attack to every person who argued against Bernie as a candidate. No! But my emotions made me want to and I am sure in some posts I made equally unfair attacks. People are emotional and supporters attack other campaigns for both good and bad reasons and with good and bad attacks. I am trying this primary to not attack any candidate or specific group but only to defend candidates I like when I think an attack is unfair. Bernie seems to get his share of unfair attacks. Warren luckily doesn't.

If you step back from the fray just a little, you might recognize that the Bernie detractors do some of the same thing they accuse Bernie and his supporters of doing. Primaries are emotional and it would be better for us to beat Trump if we tailed down the unfair rhetoric and understand that every campaign has a swarm that attacks every other candidate or candidate's supporters unfairly. Nor can campaigns exactly control their most unruly supporters.