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In reply to the discussion: Medicare for All is a fatal loser in the general election [View all]ancianita
(36,055 posts)47. Please explain the payroll tax. How would that be part of M4A?
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If it's implemented the way it's been proposed, tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands....
George II
Feb 2020
#2
All those thousands that I'm talking about work for the private insurance companies. If Sanders....
George II
Feb 2020
#7
I already said, and comparing health to jobs is NOT silly. It's silly to even bring up the few who'l
ancianita
Feb 2020
#10
But there are other ways to provide insurance to those 20+ million without throwing thousands...
George II
Feb 2020
#11
Nobody said that! We have insurance plans in place for ALL Americans. But some here....
George II
Feb 2020
#18
I suppose if you rely on that job to provide food and shelter it might be.
HarlanPepper
Feb 2020
#33
Actually, the system is NOT in place to cover 100% of the population under Medicare.
stopbush
Feb 2020
#5
The tax structure is in place. All Internet and server systems are in place. Top regional providers
ancianita
Feb 2020
#9
Medicare isn't paid into, it's Social Security that's paid into by employers. And it still will be.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#15
Never paid into Medicare from my check for 36 years. I'm surprised it's done. Thanks for the info.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#21
Nope. No FICA allowed for Chicago teachers. They deny Soc Sec to us b/c we have a pension.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#25
Regardless, here are two things that we can be sure will happen, employee deductions or not.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#32
Sure. It's federal and state income tax withholding. So how am I "wrong." You just give the process
ancianita
Feb 2020
#50
So, do you think the entirety of benefits of M4A are outweighed by employer-employee one-time
ancianita
Feb 2020
#52
I see. Thank you. That seems simple enough for an elevator pitch when you put it that way.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#57
Be honest. It's only "glaring" because none of the anti-M4A's have brought this up before you.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#60
No one in support of the OP until you. No one for the months we've been discussing it. If I'm wrong,
ancianita
Feb 2020
#61
No insult intended at all. What I discussed you called a "glaring example." Pretty offensive to me,
ancianita
Feb 2020
#64
If taxes get raised a bit to help pay for M4A, they will. Which will cost less out of pocket than
ancianita
Feb 2020
#71
Exactly. Young people aren't going for the ol' corporate bamboozle on how "important" the
ancianita
Feb 2020
#26
All Medicare recipients right now pay for supplemental. That's 55 million people. So, when
ancianita
Feb 2020
#30
Your cynicism is noted. If you seriously don't think that clears it up, then what've YOU got.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#41
I don't have anymore than Sanders does, but I haven't been pushing MFA for 5yrs and had 5yrs to...
brush
Feb 2020
#43
These guys have pushed it for 37 years. Long before Sanders. They're not political. https://pnhp.org
ancianita
Feb 2020
#45
It WILL let people keep their plans for any reason whatsoever. M4A is for ALL who need/want it.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#42
I hear you. You propose the public option that's already been bashed by private insurer PR, right?
ancianita
Feb 2020
#54
Is that the polling in the swing states? Do you have those results re: M4A "that matter"?
jmg257
Feb 2020
#13
Because their healthcare coverage is also based on the whims of their employer.
earthside
Feb 2020
#35