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Democratic Primaries

uponit7771

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5. Historical data nothing recent

Reply to thesquanderer (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:09 PM

Feb 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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So many of the anti-Bernie attacks are about what "other people" will think. [View all] DanTex Feb 2020 OP

Sanders has no historical swing state appeal outside of MOE, Biden has the most uponit7771 Feb 2020 #1

Are you talking about polls? Or something else? thesquanderer Feb 2020 #4

Historical data nothing recent uponit7771 Feb 2020 #5

I'm confused, are you looking for really historical or for recent? But either way... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #7

Sanders has not bested Biden in the swing states in the last 3 months uponit7771 Feb 2020 #16

Oh, he rarely bests Biden. That wasn't the criteria I was looking at, because... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #18

There's no historical data, last 3 months where Sanders is beating Trump beyond MOE or uponit7771 Feb 2020 #19

MOST of the swing states? How many, and which ones? More qualifiers! But to start... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #20

Swing states from wikipedia uponit7771 Feb 2020 #24

Ah, the whole shebang! I was focussed on the big three that would have made a difference in 2016. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #26

Wiki narrows it to 4 and the last 3 months Sanders isn't beating Biden vs Trump, Ohio is lost imho uponit7771 Feb 2020 #27

Right, I've never contested that "Sanders isn't beating Biden vs Trump" only that... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #29

👍 uponit7771 Feb 2020 #31

Expanding on this... Mad cow Feb 2020 #9

You had me laughing here Rilgin Feb 2020 #6

Don't have to be at top of ticket Biden best all candidates in swing states against Red Don ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #17

Bernie is doing better in most swing states than Biden. OliverQ Feb 2020 #32

Maybe now but Swing state polling goes back to pre primary post convention. Sanders isn't uponit7771 Feb 2020 #33

Sanders is doing better with the demographics that matter. OliverQ Feb 2020 #34

Better than what? luke warm? Again, snapshot data doesn't count. If there was a 3 month ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #35

Swing voters are going to decide the election. RDANGELO Feb 2020 #2

And apparently on 2/3 of those find Sanders to be acceptable... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #8

That 2/3 is more than feel that way about Biden, Bloomberg, or ANY other candidate. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #10

If he's doing THAT poorly among Democrats... he doesn't stand a chance in the General Election. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #11

Look at those numbers again., He is NOT doing that poorly among Dems, because... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #12

He is a divider. He is a socialist. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #14

If you're not going to vote for anyone unless more than 2/3 of Dems are comfortable with them... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #15

It takes a lot of people to win a presidential election RandySF Feb 2020 #3

"Other people" are the people I had to turn out when I was a Party Ward Committeeman... brooklynite Feb 2020 #13

Prioritizing what "other people" think puts you in a weak position. Yavin4 Feb 2020 #21

You're wrong, I think. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #25

"shirtless in Moscow". LOLOL R B Garr Feb 2020 #22

You're kidding yourself, I think. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #23

I think you give people too much credit. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #28

If it's not as bad as the cat grabber, don't worry about it. kentuck Feb 2020 #30

It's a very weak kind of argument. Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #36