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Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Medicare for All is a fatal loser in the general election [View all]Fine.
I just never thought of M4A as a burden on business. More a relief. Any payroll changes they have to make, they can write off as operating expenses, anyway.
A good explanation of how M4A wouldn't burden payroll tax data input any more than any other kinds of payroll changes that businesses already have to make, could help Sanders' credibility. Maybe.
One thing I notice is that Sanders voters don't really seem to really care. Maybe they believe he's got no credibility challenge coming from the likes of 45, and they could be right.
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If it's implemented the way it's been proposed, tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands....
George II
Feb 2020
#2
All those thousands that I'm talking about work for the private insurance companies. If Sanders....
George II
Feb 2020
#7
I already said, and comparing health to jobs is NOT silly. It's silly to even bring up the few who'l
ancianita
Feb 2020
#10
But there are other ways to provide insurance to those 20+ million without throwing thousands...
George II
Feb 2020
#11
Nobody said that! We have insurance plans in place for ALL Americans. But some here....
George II
Feb 2020
#18
I suppose if you rely on that job to provide food and shelter it might be.
HarlanPepper
Feb 2020
#33
Actually, the system is NOT in place to cover 100% of the population under Medicare.
stopbush
Feb 2020
#5
The tax structure is in place. All Internet and server systems are in place. Top regional providers
ancianita
Feb 2020
#9
Medicare isn't paid into, it's Social Security that's paid into by employers. And it still will be.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#15
Never paid into Medicare from my check for 36 years. I'm surprised it's done. Thanks for the info.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#21
Nope. No FICA allowed for Chicago teachers. They deny Soc Sec to us b/c we have a pension.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#25
Regardless, here are two things that we can be sure will happen, employee deductions or not.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#32
Sure. It's federal and state income tax withholding. So how am I "wrong." You just give the process
ancianita
Feb 2020
#50
So, do you think the entirety of benefits of M4A are outweighed by employer-employee one-time
ancianita
Feb 2020
#52
I see. Thank you. That seems simple enough for an elevator pitch when you put it that way.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#57
Be honest. It's only "glaring" because none of the anti-M4A's have brought this up before you.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#60
No one in support of the OP until you. No one for the months we've been discussing it. If I'm wrong,
ancianita
Feb 2020
#61
No insult intended at all. What I discussed you called a "glaring example." Pretty offensive to me,
ancianita
Feb 2020
#64
If taxes get raised a bit to help pay for M4A, they will. Which will cost less out of pocket than
ancianita
Feb 2020
#71
Exactly. Young people aren't going for the ol' corporate bamboozle on how "important" the
ancianita
Feb 2020
#26
All Medicare recipients right now pay for supplemental. That's 55 million people. So, when
ancianita
Feb 2020
#30
Your cynicism is noted. If you seriously don't think that clears it up, then what've YOU got.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#41
I don't have anymore than Sanders does, but I haven't been pushing MFA for 5yrs and had 5yrs to...
brush
Feb 2020
#43
These guys have pushed it for 37 years. Long before Sanders. They're not political. https://pnhp.org
ancianita
Feb 2020
#45
It WILL let people keep their plans for any reason whatsoever. M4A is for ALL who need/want it.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#42
I hear you. You propose the public option that's already been bashed by private insurer PR, right?
ancianita
Feb 2020
#54
Is that the polling in the swing states? Do you have those results re: M4A "that matter"?
jmg257
Feb 2020
#13
Because their healthcare coverage is also based on the whims of their employer.
earthside
Feb 2020
#35