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squirecam

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60. Bernie had a different tune in 2016.

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Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:34 PM

Mar 2020

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie Sanders argues Joe Biden and 'establishment' ignored working- and middle-class voters [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 OP

The working class voters of SC seem to have disagreed rather emphatically. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #1

Voters vary by States. When was the last time SC went Democratic in a Presidential Election? n/t Tom Rinaldo Mar 2020 #2

Right, so they're not important. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #7

Don't put words into my mouth Tom Rinaldo Mar 2020 #13

Your intent was clear. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #18

Well said.. I've seen it time and time again and it Cha Mar 2020 #29

To be fair BlueWI Mar 2020 #52

Not entirely true. After IA and NH, Bernie peeps went on a no hold spree telling everyone Vivienne235729 Mar 2020 #74

That's a fancy way to dismiss Iowa and NH BlueWI Mar 2020 #91

I didn't say any of that. What I said was that it wasn't the be all end all that so many Vivienne235729 Mar 2020 #95

The Dangerous Myth That Hillary Clinton Ignored the Working Class Cha Mar 2020 #28

This again? mcar Mar 2020 #61

The times they are a changing sheshe2 Mar 2020 #110

There goes that name again. . . . Iliyah Mar 2020 #3

+1 nt Skidmore Mar 2020 #99

Calling other Democrats "establishment" PatSeg Mar 2020 #4

bernie has lived off the taxpayers for many decades, becoming a multi millionaire thanks to that... msongs Mar 2020 #5

He's been selling the same old tired PatSeg Mar 2020 #22

He's right. The establishment has let working class voters down. Fran2020 Mar 2020 #6

Bernie is the establishment, dware Mar 2020 #10

Bernie is not the establishment. The establishment wants to stop him. Fran2020 Mar 2020 #21

You can spin it all you want, dware Mar 2020 #25

Not spin. Bernie is anti-establishment. The establishment wants to stop him. Fran2020 Mar 2020 #39

LOL. dware Mar 2020 #44

And just for the record, dware Mar 2020 #45

YAWN awesomerwb1 Mar 2020 #77

FDR was a free trader and a capitalist showblue22 Mar 2020 #50

Gas lighting is rude uponit7771 Mar 2020 #93

And joe hasn't? DiverDave Mar 2020 #109

LOL. dware Mar 2020 #112

Sure he has DiverDave Mar 2020 #113

Lol FDR was a reform capitalist who ran on a balanced budget policy grantcart Mar 2020 #23

FDR was VERY ESTABLISHMENT. OhZone Mar 2020 #35

We constantly see the modern re-creation of what FDR was and like a lot of Bernie's Blue_true Mar 2020 #68

FDR values? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #38

New Deal values. Economic progressive values. Fran2020 Mar 2020 #40

The New Deal Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #41

No. The economic values of taking on the wealthy class and supporting Fran2020 Mar 2020 #42

What Democrats don't support Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #43

Good question mcar Mar 2020 #64

I'm only aware of one campaign that attacked a union recently. Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #65

Biden's very first fundraiser included a union-busting law firm. progressoid Mar 2020 #103

And what actions has Biden taken to bust unions Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #104

You asked, "What Democrats don't support workers and unions?" progressoid Mar 2020 #105

No that is guilt by association Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #106

Call it what you like but progressoid Mar 2020 #107

I call it what it is Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #111

So the Japanese were imprisoned simply for being Japanese and their Blue_true Mar 2020 #71

+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #75

With the backdrop of the Depression treestar Mar 2020 #89

There is a substantial element of Bernie's core support that relishes the collapse of society, Blue_true Mar 2020 #98

Not true. They held me up during the Great Recession with... Kahuna7 Mar 2020 #56

Funny how Sanders supporters mcar Mar 2020 #63

You apparently haven't even bothered to awesomerwb1 Mar 2020 #79

+1 Meadowoak Mar 2020 #81

So, right after he trashes Democrats... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #8

So, apparently President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden were ignoring... Sloumeau Mar 2020 #9

+10000 emmaverybo Mar 2020 #14

That's why he wanted to primary them in 2012 grantcart Mar 2020 #16

Bernie had a different tune in 2016. squirecam Mar 2020 #60

4 years was a long time ago politically speaking peequod Mar 2020 #80

Sheesh - so now AA aren't part of the working or middle-class??? WTF? jmg257 Mar 2020 #11

"South Carolina doesn't matter because we won't win it in November." TwilightZone Mar 2020 #12

Tired of all talking points Walleye Mar 2020 #31

That is so damned illogical treestar Mar 2020 #88

It's how he thinks. And how he thinks is a problem. He stereotypes AA people. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #15

I've been giving him the benefit of the doubt. jmg257 Mar 2020 #19

Of course African Americans are part of the middle-class. Just a much smaller part. progressoid Mar 2020 #108

. Squinch Mar 2020 #17

Neither Sanders nor his supporters.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #20

True dat Walleye Mar 2020 #32

Actually, some Democrats don't mind this message. BlueWI Mar 2020 #54

Maybe some don't... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #57

Maybe some don't? BlueWI Mar 2020 #66

I'll vote for him in the GE if he gets the nom.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #96

1+ dustyscamp Mar 2020 #58

I think they do understand, and they are issuing a big FU to people who have worked hard for Democra still_one Mar 2020 #78

+1, uponit7771 Mar 2020 #94

Sanders is factually wrong and why I dislike him so. Democrats have been fighting for all the stuff LizBeth Mar 2020 #24

Has Bernie ever held a job? evertonfc Mar 2020 #26

I think he was a carpenter at one time, dware Mar 2020 #27

A handy man, and lousy at it. Even this little job he made more of a title of it than what it is. LizBeth Mar 2020 #34

Thanks, dware Mar 2020 #36

He says writer, but that would be the guy mag that discussed rape fantasy. Also worked a small LizBeth Mar 2020 #46

Like Jesue? Me. Mar 2020 #49

LOL. nt dware Mar 2020 #67

He was a shitty carpenter that could not pay his bills. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #72

Blatant lies. I've been a working middle class voter Hortensis Mar 2020 #30

+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #48

As Part Of The Establishment Himself, What Has He Done...Effectively? Me. Mar 2020 #33

Not a damned thing. nt dware Mar 2020 #37

"I'm part of the Democratic leadership" but somehow not part of the establishment. betsuni Mar 2020 #47

Union member of the working class for Biden mzmolly Mar 2020 #51

Mahalo, mzmolly! Cha Mar 2020 #83

Hi Cha!! mzmolly Mar 2020 #100

Well, this working class hero can tell you Lunabell Mar 2020 #53

This thread. I swear. Laelth Mar 2020 #55

That's not what Bernie said in 2016. squirecam Mar 2020 #59

Wow. Thank you for the reminder! betsuni Mar 2020 #76

Why doesn't Bernie take on Republicans? mcar Mar 2020 #62

Looks like hammering democrats is more fun for some reason. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #73

So much for the pledge mcar Mar 2020 #85

Bernie seems to be conditional, what works for him is ok. Blue_true Mar 2020 #97

He's more right than he is wrong. ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #69

No he is Not. Cha Mar 2020 #84

Tilting at windmills NYMinute Mar 2020 #70

His proclamations never come true. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #82

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2020 #86

He has not treestar Mar 2020 #87

Bernie IS establishment. How can he pretend to be anything else? Evergreen Emerald Mar 2020 #90

How many more times is he allowed to get away Blue_Tires Mar 2020 #92

Ignored them?? Doreen Mar 2020 #101

This once middle class then paycheck to paycheck class now LakeArenal Mar 2020 #102