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H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
24. Thank you!
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 12:17 PM
Mar 2020

You made some interesting and important points. I respect and appreciate that. I'd like to respond to a few of them, though I have just read your post and so my thoughts are not organized.

Right now, Joe Biden has about twice the support that Bernie Sanders has, which is substantial at this point in the primary contest. In both groups, there is a range of people, spanning those who recognize that attempts to unite are necessary right now, to those who have closed their ears and minds to anything that people on the other side thinks. We've seen similar splits before, and by no coincidence, when the divide is harsh, we lose. Indeed, the Democratic Party can not win when it is divided this way.

We've seen several examples how emotional reactions, rather than rational thinking, creates hostile divides. One of the most interesting, at least to me, examples is found in the Tulsi Gabbard campaign. Hostilities from 2016 saturated most of her 2020 run. While she is a bit outside of the mainstream of our party's leadership, and had zero chance of being the nominee, her focus on protecting the people in the military sent to kill and be killed in the Bush-Cheney wars was sincere. Certainly the foreign policy in the Middle East demands a thoughtful discussion within our party.

Yet there were bitter, often ignorant attacks on her -- she was a Puton mole, she'd run third party, etc. Since she dropped out and endorsed Joe Biden, hopefully those who engaged in such stupid attacks can recognize they were not only wrong, but they were actually doing Putin's job of dividing our party for him, free of charge ....although there is a price to be paid.

There are individuals who sincerely support either Joe or Bernie who are wise enough not to engage in the such nonsense. There are those in each camp that do. And, in the middle, there are those who simply want the divide resolved as soon as possible, no matter if they prefer Joe or Bernie.

Most of us have our own opinion on how the divide is healed, including many who share your view that it requires that Bernie drop out immediately before the healing process can begin. And there are many others who recognize that the healing process can and must begin now, in order to smooth the transition to the eventual and unavoidable nomination of Joe Biden this summer. Everyone has the right to their own opinion on that.

The problem, in my opinion, is that a minority of supporters from both camps are escalating the shrill and histronic attacks on the other candidate and his supporters. One need look no further than this forum for proof positive of this. And too often, in times of tension, it is those voices that get the most attention, and do the most damage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
Isn't It A Pity [View all] H2O Man Mar 2020 OP
I can listen and find common cause with what you say of trump. boston bean Mar 2020 #1
Right. H2O Man Mar 2020 #3
I am gonna vote for the democrat. I am sorry, but anyone who supported one of the dem candidates boston bean Mar 2020 #5
That's good. H2O Man Mar 2020 #7
As soon as he drops out, I will be happy. I have no joy boston bean Mar 2020 #11
That's fine. H2O Man Mar 2020 #12
I agree people should move on from Bernie. boston bean Mar 2020 #13
There are not H2O Man Mar 2020 #14
Anyone considering not supporting Biden is the bad guy. boston bean Mar 2020 #15
Thank you! I agree! nolawarlock Mar 2020 #19
Great song! hangaleft Mar 2020 #2
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2020 #4
George was my favorite Beatle sellitman Mar 2020 #38
It is a great album. H2O Man Mar 2020 #40
Yes indeed. sellitman Mar 2020 #43
I Wonder Who The Designated Survivor Will Be Me. Mar 2020 #6
It won't be me, H2O Man Mar 2020 #9
I'm Guessing Either World Wonder Jared Or Princess Perfect Me. Mar 2020 #16
Ever since Jared H2O Man Mar 2020 #20
Quite Me. Mar 2020 #21
Yes, definitely. H2O Man Mar 2020 #23
Soylent Jared? sellitman Mar 2020 #36
I'm in babylonsister Mar 2020 #8
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2020 #10
"We lose every time it leaves jagged wounds." bluescribbler Mar 2020 #17
I didn't think H2O Man Mar 2020 #22
Unity is good. Together we stand. ucrdem Mar 2020 #18
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2020 #24
You're welcome, and thanks for a thoughtful response. ucrdem Mar 2020 #44
Well you succeeded malaise Mar 2020 #25
I have a question H2O Man Mar 2020 #26
That is a question for everyone malaise Mar 2020 #27
I sure do H2O Man Mar 2020 #31
And the NYT and NBC gave him all the attention he wanted malaise Mar 2020 #34
Beautiful OP and thread. Thank you. n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #28
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2020 #35
I respect your voice of reason, H20 Man. Thank you democrank Mar 2020 #29
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2020 #37
I agree with everything you say here ms liberty Mar 2020 #30
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2020 #39
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #32
Thanks, Uncle Joe! H2O Man Mar 2020 #41
Vote by mail, every state, coast to coast. magicarpet Mar 2020 #33
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2020 #42
The primary is over...and Biden won...don't care what Bernie thinks or wants...he just needs to go. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #45
Yes. Thanks. H2O Man Mar 2020 #46
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