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babylonsister

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Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:33 AM Apr 2019

Some Thoughts on Buttigieg Taking Off and Warren Seeming to be Grounded [View all]

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Some Thoughts on Buttigieg Taking Off and Warren Seeming to be Grounded
AP
By John Judis
April 15, 2019 4:29 pm

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What accounts for his popularity? I’ll list five factors. First, he is the smartest person in class. New York Magazine’s profile of him is titled, “Pete Buttigieg is a gay Harvard alum, fluent in Gramsci, Joyce, and Norwegian.” Being thought of as brilliant is a plus in elections. It helped John F. Kennedy in 1960 and Barack Obama in 2008. It contributed to the rise of Emmanuel Macron in France and is probably a factor in the popularity of super-reactionary Thierry Baudet in Holland who touts himself “the most important intellectual in the Netherlands.”

Second, Buttigieg’s being gay is probably a plus in the Democratic primary, and not just among gay voters. As my friend and Buttigieg watcher Paul Starobin pointed out to me, Democrats and other voters liked the idea of voting for a black guy for president in 2008; and they may feel similarly about voting for a gay man in 2020. Third, he is running as the candidate of the millennials, as my daughter Hilary Judis, a millennial herself and enthusiastic supporter, informed me weeks ago. He is a generational candidate, as John Kennedy was in 1960. He put it cleverly in his announcement speech. The election, he said, is “not just about the next four years—it’s about preparing our country for a better life in 2030, in 2040, and in the year 2054, when, God willing, I will come to be the same age as our current President.”

Fourth, he is running as the mayor who brought a rust belt city back to life and implicitly as someone who can appeal to erstwhile Trump voters in the deindustrialized Midwest. Unlike Trump, he eschews promises to bring back older jobs. “There is a myth being sold to industrial and rural communities … that we can stop the clock and turn it back,” Buttigieg said, as he spoke in an old Studebaker auto plant that is being converted to a high-tech hub. His appeal echoes that of Bill Clinton in 1996 who promised to “make change our friend.” (It may not actually work with Midwestern voters in a general election. He eschews, for one thing, any talk of China and trade or of job competition from immigrants.)

Fifth, he promises to reclaim patriotism and religion for the Democrats. He summed up his appeal with a line reminiscent of Obama’s 2004 convention speech, recounting that when he was driving soldiers in Afghanistan “the men and women who got in my vehicle, they didn’t care if I was a Democrat or a Republican. They cared about whether I had selected the route with the fewest IED threats, not whether my father was documented or undocumented when he immigrated here. They cared about whether my M-4 was locked and loaded, not whether I was going home to a girlfriend or a boyfriend.”

Buttigieg also understands that successful political campaigns are based on themes and not on policies. His announcement speech was lacking in bullet points and numbers. Instead of taking a specific stand on “Medicare for All,” he talked about how because of Medicare, when his parents got sick, “all we had to think about was what was medically right for Mom and Dad both. Not whether our family would go bankrupt.” “I want every American to have that same benefit,” he concluded. But unlike Beto O’Rourke, whose campaign seems based on his theatrical prowess, Buttigieg can, if questioned, get into the bullet points and numbers.

I’m not sure why Warren’s campaign seems not to have taken off. She certainly could challenge Buttigieg for being the smartest person in class. And she has real accomplishments in Washington to boast of. It may be that her own themes – her attack against a “rigged system” – have gotten lost in the details of her policy proposals. She is not a thematic politician the way Buttigieg or Sanders is. Or it may be that the controversy over her Native American ancestry has nullified the impact of her impressive up-from-the-bootstraps biography. Or, finally, it may be, as I’ve heard from other Democrats, that she sounds too “professorial.” She’ll probably get her chance to shine in the debates. But for the moment, she is getting outshone by the mayor from South Bend.
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I think you may have hit the answer in your last paragraph frazzled Apr 2019 #1
To me it is his cilla4progress Apr 2019 #2
Harris/Buttigieg 2020 jayschool2013 Apr 2019 #28
I Do Too! DarthDem Apr 2019 #29
I don't think we can overlook the extent to which a brilliant man is dsc Apr 2019 #3
Yup. nt DLevine Apr 2019 #7
Agree MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #51
Warren comes across as shrill and overly excited sometimes. LuvNewcastle Apr 2019 #4
Oh, Warren is "shrill" eh? BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #5
Really. elleng Apr 2019 #11
Yeah, her voice is kind of shrill. LuvNewcastle Apr 2019 #12
Why not call her hysterical too Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #53
Anyone who complains that Warren is "shrill" Ohiogal Apr 2019 #23
It's also sexist BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #59
geezus...shrill? DonCoquixote Apr 2019 #13
I'm not commenting on women as a group. LuvNewcastle Apr 2019 #15
Oh come on... radical noodle Apr 2019 #14
Okay, I'll stop. I won't comment on it anymore. LuvNewcastle Apr 2019 #19
I'm not necessarily even a supporter of Warren radical noodle Apr 2019 #21
This artislife Apr 2019 #38
Okay, I'll remember that. LuvNewcastle Apr 2019 #49
Appreciate it! radical noodle Apr 2019 #50
Her voice is not what I would call shrill, but sometimes it sounds tense and constricted. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #30
She can be overly caffeinated at times BeyondGeography Apr 2019 #27
Unlike, say, Beto. How many Red Bulls does that guy consume for breakfast? Hekate Apr 2019 #55
I haven't been able to watch him BeyondGeography Apr 2019 #56
I'm no Warren fan, but "shrill" is terribly misogynistic Tarc Apr 2019 #39
Shrill? Tipperary Apr 2019 #42
"Shrill"? Jesus Christ, not that old canard against ANY woman who speaks passionately. nt Hekate Apr 2019 #54
Sanders is way more shrill. but it's only women who are criticized JI7 Apr 2019 #60
Exactly. It's sexism in its most unadulterated form. athena Apr 2019 #62
Pete is new and is an exciting mix of smart, young and gay. But Warren has put forth Nanjeanne Apr 2019 #6
She certainly isn't! Brainstormy Apr 2019 #18
I know, it's sad srobertss Apr 2019 #24
Her natural supporters seem stuck on Bernie. He will be the end of her campaign. seaglass Apr 2019 #36
Perhaps they are like me. Supporters of Sanders first and Warren next. If sanders were Nanjeanne Apr 2019 #37
It's obvious that everyone gets to choose the candidate they want to support, isn't it? seaglass Apr 2019 #40
I think there is room for both of them just as there is room now for a Beto and a Pete. Nanjeanne Apr 2019 #43
I have been surprised that Warren is not getting more exposure. brer cat Apr 2019 #8
Sanders and Warren are vying for some of the same support andym Apr 2019 #9
Most interesting read. calimary Apr 2019 #10
Thing Is . . . DarthDem Apr 2019 #31
For me radical noodle Apr 2019 #16
Nanjeanne mentioned a huge one -- the media, and fashion. Hortensis Apr 2019 #17
Often times, image wins out over substance... Drunken Irishman Apr 2019 #20
Yes not fooled Apr 2019 #22
In Pete's case, it's by design. He decide to focus on broad themes first marylandblue Apr 2019 #48
Usually Policy needs Charisma and Style to win. MarcA Apr 2019 #58
His weakness may be in his lack of concern for the disadvantaged. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2019 #25
All that matters DownriverDem Apr 2019 #26
I think that Warren is trying to out Sanders while Sanders himself is running question everything Apr 2019 #32
I love Warren, but she made the mistake of getting into the mud with rump. Tipperary Apr 2019 #33
She did show customerserviceguy Apr 2019 #45
I know. I hate that because I think she would be a great president. Tipperary Apr 2019 #46
And the worst case scenario customerserviceguy Apr 2019 #47
Message I sent to TPM earlier today: "No mention of gender? Or the advantage of being a white male? deurbano Apr 2019 #34
Warren... roscoeroscoe Apr 2019 #35
Good analysis fifthoffive Apr 2019 #41
In my opinion customerserviceguy Apr 2019 #44
Warren is still in the thick of it for this stage of the primary season Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #52
Not sure what you mean by "outshone." I guess I interpret that phrase as "attracting attention." Raven123 Apr 2019 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #61
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