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Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
24. Not voting in the poll because the wording is presumptuous.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 05:05 AM
Apr 2019

One of the worries I have about Joe Biden for the general is that he is absolutely not a 'safe choice'. He has tons of baggage (although the same can be said about Sanders) however that baggage if twisted by the GOP could cut into our base. It's not impossible to see the pukes hammering him on Anita Hill to try and reduce his support in the black communities and they'll certainly hit him via proxies with his support of the credit card companies and the bankrupcy stuff. At a time when the party has been drifting left over the last four years, that stuff being aired in public again could have a serious effect on our turnout in the general.

All our candidates are likely to face that kind of ratfucking though, but with Joe he's also VERY susceptible to unprovoked gaffes. In the past we could just laugh that off most of the time, but if he drops a big one just before the general then that could cost us the White House.

He's a strong candidate and if he's the next president then I'll be more than satisfied with that, but let's not pretend he's a safe choice. His record shows that isn't the case.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
I am wondering how much of Biden's support is fully dependent on the running assumption he jezebel321 Apr 2019 #1
A lot leftofcool Apr 2019 #2
I'm thinking I agree. I wonder if others start polling well against Trump or Biden slips against jezebel321 Apr 2019 #3
Well, that is what it is all about. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #14
Not mine JustAnotherGen Apr 2019 #29
This is the way I am LEANING.... but I've not made a final decision hlthe2b Apr 2019 #4
I keep seeing this thought about only serving one term. But has he said that? jezebel321 Apr 2019 #6
Strong instinct. I TRULY believe Biden wants to set the country back on course... hlthe2b Apr 2019 #7
Is it ok to say I would feel so much better if he would say it? Part of my reluctance to back him jezebel321 Apr 2019 #8
I don't think we should handicap him going into a General election (assuming he does win nomination) hlthe2b Apr 2019 #13
I've also been very concerned about using that argument. MoonRiver Apr 2019 #43
Not to nitpcik, but Biden was born in 1942, while the orange moron was... GReedDiamond Apr 2019 #50
He said that yesterday and that is a negative dor me Raven123 Apr 2019 #33
Just a reminder of the priorities hlthe2b Apr 2019 #35
A country that was on the right course before Trump would not have elected Trump Raven123 Apr 2019 #37
That you would even make the comparison makes me wonder why you are here. hlthe2b Apr 2019 #44
you weren't satified with how Obama/Biden restored economy? AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #54
He should never say that. A lame duck presidency is a bad idea. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #20
'And incumbents win reelection almost always.' Celerity Apr 2019 #25
Recently except for two ...most incumbents win another term. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #39
'FDR on...only two that didn't win a second term.' Celerity Apr 2019 #42
It would be a big mistake tactically to say so drray23 Apr 2019 #34
We need a healthy competitive primary campaign, and then let the primary voters and caucus goers totodeinhere Apr 2019 #5
"Go with Biden because he is my preferred candidate AND he's the best choice to beat Trump" LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #9
lol, I should have put a 3rd choice up. Wasnt meaning to imply anything by it. nt jezebel321 Apr 2019 #10
NP; I got it :) LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #11
All these health epidemics, lung, kidneys, heart, childhood Hortensis Apr 2019 #12
Well not safe could elect Trump again. I can't imagine the horrors that await if this happens. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #21
Yes. The horrors will include SCOTUS for ANY Republican Hortensis Apr 2019 #23
How about: wait till there has been a debate or two and see how the candidates handle them? n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #15
A much better idea Andy823 Apr 2019 #16
I agree! We have such great candidates, some of whom are still barely known by the electorate. femmedem Apr 2019 #31
Yes a lot can change Andy823 Apr 2019 #45
If Repub Senate Allows drumph to be Convicted MarcA Apr 2019 #17
Pence Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #40
I don't feel like I'm taking a "chance" with my primary vote backtoblue Apr 2019 #18
I'm with you, Blue! If Joe is nominated I'll vote for him but I don't think he's a sure thing. hedda_foil Apr 2019 #57
WI too late to matter. but i would vote for the leader. IF i think they will win. pansypoo53219 Apr 2019 #19
Would I rather watch democracy soaked in petrol and kicked down a hill? For my PERSONAL vanity? Maru Kitteh Apr 2019 #22
Not voting in the poll because the wording is presumptuous. Kentonio Apr 2019 #24
slanted wording, so a bogus poll, 'safe choice' v. 'take a chance', that would earn an 'F' from 538 Celerity Apr 2019 #26
Too many things can happen by out primary-- like other primaries... TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #27
Seeing Biden as the safe choice is also taking a chance. Demit Apr 2019 #28
a vote for BS is a vote for trump AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #30
I don't know why you believe that. Do you have polling data to that effect? totodeinhere Apr 2019 #48
I think Bernie people don't realize that he is not popular wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #52
I believe if Joe MFM008 Apr 2019 #32
Indeed. I think Harris would be more likely than warren as vp drray23 Apr 2019 #36
Buttigieg doesnt have a law degree, I keep seeing all these posts from various people saying he Celerity Apr 2019 #38
Just an example MFM008 Apr 2019 #46
lolol, Putie would have a FIT!!!! Celerity Apr 2019 #47
Actually the Constitution does not require that a SCOTUS justice have a law degree. totodeinhere Apr 2019 #49
I knew that, but in today's environment , he will not be judged as eligible from a Celerity Apr 2019 #53
oh, that's a hard one. Amimnoch Apr 2019 #41
Biden will not be the nominee. I think it is good that wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #51
what chance would I be taking? Skittles Apr 2019 #55
That's a false choice NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #56
Lotta assumptions in there. shanny Apr 2019 #58
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