ElementaryPenguin
ElementaryPenguin's JournalIf the Russian scandal leads to abolishing electronic voting, 4 years of President Pence
Will absolutely suck - but will be endurable.
Trump will be impeached. It's clear that Trump's unpopularity will continue to grow - the man simply cannot resist alienating as many people and entities as he possibly can. The intelligence community is going to nail him with a whopper. It's probably already been decided within Republican circles that they will not defend him much longer. (And Republicans like McCain and Graham - and even Rubio, despise the orange creature almost as much as we do!)
An establish GOP player, Pence is obviously manageable - their kind of guy. Yes, he's a right-wing scoundrel, he's going to set back progressive causes decades, but he isn't going to dance to Putin's tune, and he isn't likely to start WWIII.
But what HAS to come out of this scandal - is not just how bad Trump and his campaign were/are - but how vulnerable our electronic voting system truly is - which must lead to it's abolition!!! THAT must be the primary focus - or we're headed to another election where massive theft will be a possibility again - either performed by a hostile foreign power again - Russia, China, name your country, - or done by a domestic player.
Pence will not enjoy the grassroots support that Trump has, and we know that the Trump/Pence policies will fail miserably, and become wildly unpopular. Polarizing figures like Jeff Sessions will likely to lead to widespread civil unrest. 4 years from now - people are going to want change again. Pence will not be difficult to beat - provided we have done away with - or seriously made fail-proof electronic voting.
After the impeachment of the disgraced Trump THIS will have to be the primary focus of progressives. Without it, the voting majority has little chance of reclaiming much power. Simply put - THE GOP CHEATS!!!!!!!!!!! And the American people have to be convinced - once and for all - that ELECTRONIC VOTING IS TOO VULNERABLE AND WILL ABSOLUTELY DESTROY AMERICAN DEMOCRACY!
We can't allow the subject to remain taboo. It goes without saying, this is not the only issue - but we can accomplish next to nothing without it being seriously addressed. The GOP has to be put in a position where it can't be seen defending it, any more than it can be seen defending Trump.
Loretta Lynch could file federal charges against Trump for High Treason NOW!
And the Supreme Court could make a ruling on that - even the same day. The evidence is there - and I believe that Anthony Kennedy would very likely make it a 5-3 vote against Trump.
History may judge the two of them as actually saving the country.
Trump is not President. You can't impeach him yet, and you don't need to. If Trump were to commit murder in broad daylight right now, he would be arrested, and he would not be sworn in as President on Jan. 20th. Nor should he be sworn it when the evidence now suggests that he's committed high treason (and there is undoubtedly plenty more classified evidence).
Yes, this is as far-fetched as it gets - and the longest of long shots (but consider how long the odds were against us being in the situation we're now in). But this could be legally done, couldn't it?
Ultimately, Trump would be pardoned by President Hillary Clinton.
(My apologies to pbmus - for this was inspired by their thought - no one seemed to be responding anymore)
Perhaps our best hope is to convert John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Rand Paul...
Into Democrats and flip the Senate - or at least Independents that caucus with the Democrats.
Maybe even, gulp, Marco Rubio (either Paul or Rubio).
I know it sounds insane - the Hail Mary of all Hail Marys - but each of these guys hates Trump about as much as we do...
If they can be persuaded that the Republican Party is no more - that it is now THE PARTY OF TRUMP - who is partnered with the arch enemy of America - Vladimir Putin's Russia - well, why the hell wouldn't they bolt to try to STOP TRUMP? I think it's possible. (Graham has an election in 2 years - right? But he probably hates Trump the most - and he just may be able to survive that.)
I don't like any of these guys politically - but I do think that each of them believe that they have been trying to do what's best for America.
Anyone agree? If so, how do we give such a "campaign" some kind of subtle nudge? Perhaps contacting Democratic Senators - floating the idea their way that they should consider courting these guys? Perhaps they already are. Even still, hearing their constituents seconding the idea might entice them to consider it more seriously? 
A U.S. President is NOT a Ruler, but a PUBLIC SERVANT!! A President is not the boss of the people...
But merely the boss of the government's network of public servants.
We cannot allow it to be forgotten that THEY work for us! (and not the other way around!)
"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." Thomas Jefferson
Trump seems to be determined to establish an American dictatorship - and the moment he tries to implement this after his inauguration we must oppose him to such a degree (General Strike?? - whatever means) to communicate to his party that we, the people, WILL NOT TOLERATE AN AMERICAN DICTATORSHIP - and that we will be essentially ungovernable if this individual is not removed or forced to comply with our Constitution! If we accept a dictatorship we will never be rid of it in our lifetimes!
NO AMERICAN SHOULD EVER ACT LIKE THEY ARE AFRAID OF TRUMP!!
With Climate Change - our generation has been given an opportunity (and responsibility) to save our planet - with Trump - we must answer the call to save our form of government. THIS IS OUR MOMENT! ("one of the greatest generations perhaps?"
In the long run, it may be easier than you think to dissuade the U.S. military from supporting a totalitarian regime partnered with a Russian dictator bent on abolishing the U.S. Constitution!
Without them - Trump will have NOTHING - and will be ready to kick to the curb like a toothless Joseph McCarthy figure.
Whadya wanna bet the CIA is sitting on evidence of Trump and his camp communicating and colluding..
With Russia during the campaign - ready to dangle it threateningly over his fat orange head the moment he actually sets out to dismantle the Agency?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/11/10/russian-officials-were-in-contact-with-trump-during-campaign.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl
In order to get elected, the Orangutan Emperor got himself blackmailed by Putin...
And there's no way out for him now. He will always do Puti's bidding. Putin already overrode Trump's choice for Secretary of State - choosing HIS buddy Tillerson - over Trump's loyal (and whacko) foot soldier Rudy G. The insane and widely discredited Flynn is another Pooti fave.
Putin likely has enough evidence of his collusion in the election hack to get tRump hanged for treason. Don the Con will NEVER cross his master - no matter what the political cost - even if it were to end up costing him the support of the GOP - and lead him down the path to impeachment!
Trump will no longer be useful to the GOP come Jan. 21st!!
They rode with him (and Putin and Comey) back to power in the White House, but I truly expect a drive towards impeachment to begin within months. Trump is a loose cannon that is far too unpredictable, and likely to declare war on the GOP establishment at the drop of a hat. I think the establishment man - President Pence - will likely serve a longer stretch in this term than Trump.
Trump has probably already provided them with a whole host of impeachable acts to choose from - whether it be his collusion (and communication) with the Russian hacking scheme, or one of multiple violations of the emoluments clause.
Seriously, why stick with Trump when he is so unpredictable, unpopular, and untested? He's going to suck, and they know it. The right wing that supported him isn't going anywhere - it's not like they're going to switch to supporting liberal Democrats any time soon.
And not all Republicans on capitol hill are really anxious to take their marching orders from Russia.
Yes, as he is a right-wing homophobe, anti-abortion rights fanatic, who counts Dick Cheney as a mentor - Pence will be bad. But he does know government, he won't be led by Putin, and he's not likely to launch nuclear weapons.
My bet is that Paul Ryan can't wait to get rid of the loudmouthed orange monster (Priebus or no Priebus) at his earliest convenience!
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