And gets you a republi-CON back in the White House.

I say again - I'll take a shitty Democrat over ANY republi-CON - ANY day. Yes. It does come down to that. I do NOT want ANY republi-CON in the White House. I do not want ANY republi-CON slithering in because our side couldn't get it together and conquer as a united front. I do NOT want ANY republi-CON picking the next Supreme Court justices. How'd the last couple of rounds work out for everybody, 'eh? You want ANOTHER scalia or thomas or roberts or alito? You REALLY want to risk that? Those bastards are appointed for life, so we're STILL suffering under antonin scalia and fucking damn reagan appointed him! You want the PNAC back in the Defense Department or the National Security Advisor's office? You want the lovers of strip-mining and unrestrained oil drilling and clear-cutting back in the Interior Department? The ramifications of ANY candidate with an "R" after his/her name getting into the Oval Office terrifies me! And if some independent or protest candidate's gonna try to get in there and muck up the works, and thereby take votes away from the leading candidate with the "D" after his/her name and make it more likely that an "R" can slither in, I'm NOT gonna play along!!!! NO MATTER HOW MUCH I ACTUALLY MIGHT LIKE the protest candidate! Yes, like a Bernie Sanders.

All ralph nader did was peel off enough votes from Al Gore here and there to make it close enough for bush/cheney to steal it. THAT is what happened. I don't care how it's rationalized or excused way. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. Ross Perot did it to the CONS twice - in 1992 and 1996, taking enough votes away from bush1 and then from Bob Dole so that Bill Clinton won. John Anderson did it to our side when he ran as an independent in the Carter vs reagan election, and that screwed Carter. reagan didn't win by a landslide the first time.

We have to stick to a sure bet if we're gonna keep the White House and protect everything we've all worked for and all the gains we've made over the years. Unfortunately, we don't have a choice. Because the alternative is splintering our voting bloc so the bad guys can slither in while we're busy fighting one another.

Hey, I wish it were different, too! But it isn't. I'm just being realistic. That's what we're stuck with, and that's how we have to win it.

Wouldn't that be (featuring Sody Pop)?

You'll get no criticism from me, PCIntern.

You make a worthy point here. And it feeds into an issue that I think I'm gonna get awfully repetitive about in the months ahead. WE HAVE TO STICK TOGETHER! AND WE HAVE TO VOTE! Because it's awfully easy just to throw up your hands and say "screw it, why bother to vote? Won't make any difference…" And this election cycle especially, we simply cannot afford to do that! We can't afford to get discouraged and give up! We just CAN'T! And we can't decide we must stay home in a huff because the "perfect" candidate we favored didn't get very far and we're left with the lesser of two evils and so somehow that is an unacceptable choice and not worth voting for. WE CAN'T!!!! We can't afford to do that!!!! Cooler, more level and more logical heads MUST prevail here. And as I've said before, I'll take a shitty Democrat over ANY republi-CON, even a "good" one (yeah, good republi-CON my ass!), ANY DAY.

I've had, thankfully, a very few small run-ins with folks here. I am grateful that somehow, despite my own assholishness and annoying people with my longwinded opinionated bushwa, most people here have been patient and forgiving and tolerate me kindly. Awhile ago, I gave myself a nickname for it - the insufferable bloviating schmuckette.

Welcome to DU, mc51tc!

Glad you're here! So good and so encouraging to see this. Just when one is about to give up hope…

We SERIOUSLY need to get out the vote! ALL OVER THE PLACE. In-Yer-Face to all those bad guys and other assorted assholes who have the gall to think they can steal this November by keeping strategically-selected voter groups from voting. BASTARDS!!!! But just stop and wrap your head around that for a moment. The most effective way they think they can win is by PREVENTING THOSE WHO'D VOTE AGAINST THEM FROM VOTING!!! For pity's sake, how freakin' pathetic is that? THAT is the only way you think you can win? By making sure those against you can't weigh in on you? Some karma they're building on that side of the aisle, 'eh? What does that say about the case they make? Besides the increasingly glaringly obvious fact that they can't win in a fair fight. They can't win on the issues. They can't win on policy - because their policies and their ideas simply SUCK. So the way they see clear to victory is to rig the game. If you can't win on the issues, win by cheating.

That should tell you all you need to know about those assholes. I wish we could find a way to keep all climate change deniers from voting! How 'bout THAT for turnabout being fair play?

OMG!!!!!!!!

YES!!! We ARE!!!!!

I'm LOVING this thread!!!!!!!

OMG!!! LOVE THIS, TOO!!!

WINNER!!!!

My husband's nickname for him is "Fuck Turd."

Works for me!

Every time I see that death-mask of a face, I wanna throw something at it.

Yeah, smile, you BASTARD. How many people did you doom with your stupidity and arrogance?

I saw this documentary. Just wanted to SCREAM!!!!!! Seldom have I ever seen or heard the musings of this big a bullshit artist. And he's sooooooooo proud of it.

Here, donnie boy, this is for you: ,,/,