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Quixote1818
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June 1, 2018
It may prove to be one of the stupidest things he has yet done.
By Sean Illing@seanillingsean.illing@vox.com Updated Mar 28, 2018, 1:41pm EDT VOX
Snip: I reached out to 10 legal experts and asked them if the Arpaio decision is a signal of how Trump might seek to undercut the Russia investigation. I also asked what it would mean for the investigation if Trump pardoned key players in the scandal like Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, or Jared Kushner before any of them could be convicted.
While its impossible to predict what Trump will do, nearly all the experts I spoke to agree on one thing: If Trump does use his pardoning powers to thwart the Russia investigation, its very likely to backfire.
If someone like Flynn or Kushner were preemptively pardoned, he wouldnt be able to plead the Fifth Amendment if he were called to testify against Trump. The Fifth Amendment protects citizens against self-incrimination. But if someone has been pardoned, they no longer face the threat of prosecution, and so they cant use a desire to avoid incriminating themselves as an excuse not to answer a question.
So in addition to potentially obstructing justice, Trump would only leave himself and his colleagues more vulnerable if he decided to pardon anyone currently under investigation. Of course, that doesnt mean he wont pull the trigger anyway. But he might want to think long and hard about the implications before he does.
More: https://www.vox.com/2017/8/29/16211784/trump-pardons-manafort-flynn-mueller
10 legal experts on why Trump can't pardon his way out of the Russia investigation
It may prove to be one of the stupidest things he has yet done.
By Sean Illing@seanillingsean.illing@vox.com Updated Mar 28, 2018, 1:41pm EDT VOX
Snip: I reached out to 10 legal experts and asked them if the Arpaio decision is a signal of how Trump might seek to undercut the Russia investigation. I also asked what it would mean for the investigation if Trump pardoned key players in the scandal like Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, or Jared Kushner before any of them could be convicted.
While its impossible to predict what Trump will do, nearly all the experts I spoke to agree on one thing: If Trump does use his pardoning powers to thwart the Russia investigation, its very likely to backfire.
If someone like Flynn or Kushner were preemptively pardoned, he wouldnt be able to plead the Fifth Amendment if he were called to testify against Trump. The Fifth Amendment protects citizens against self-incrimination. But if someone has been pardoned, they no longer face the threat of prosecution, and so they cant use a desire to avoid incriminating themselves as an excuse not to answer a question.
So in addition to potentially obstructing justice, Trump would only leave himself and his colleagues more vulnerable if he decided to pardon anyone currently under investigation. Of course, that doesnt mean he wont pull the trigger anyway. But he might want to think long and hard about the implications before he does.
More: https://www.vox.com/2017/8/29/16211784/trump-pardons-manafort-flynn-mueller
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