Presidential debates (please, no live blogging.)

I may not be able to watch them live and if someone is posting what is said it will spoil it for me.

Too funny

mitt romney (austin public access days)

Going Postal, Pre-Pistol

How did people commit mass murder before the advent of automatic weapons? Often with fire.

Often with fire. Revolutionary War veteran Barnett Davenport is widely considered the first mass murderer in U.S. history. On the evening of Feb. 3, 1780, Davenport burst into the bedroom of his employer, Caleb Mallory, and began to bludgeon Mallory and his wife with a club. When the club broke in two, Davenport beat the couple to death with Mallory’s gun. If Davenport had stopped there, he would be remembered as just an ordinary killer; most criminologists define mass murder as the killing of at least three people in a single incident. After beating the Mallorys to death, however, Davenport burned the house down, killing their three grandchildren.

Hundreds of other mass murderers have perpetrated their crimes without automatic firearms. Frenchman Pierre Riviere killed his mother, sister, and brother with a bill hook in 1835. In 1932, Julian Marcelino, a Filipino immigrant of relatively small stature, managed to kill six and wound 15 on a Seattle street using only a pair of blades. In 1915, Monroe Phillips shot seven dead and wounded 32 with a shotgun in Georgia

Guns aren’t even the most lethal mass murder weapon. According to data compiled by Grant Duwe of the Minnesota Department of Corrections, guns killed an average of 4.92 victims per mass murder in the United States during the 20th century, just edging out knives, blunt objects, and bare hands, which killed 4.52 people per incident. Fire killed 6.82 people per mass murder, while explosives far outpaced the other options at 20.82. Of the 25 deadliest mass murders in the 20th century, only 52 percent involved guns.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/07/aurora_shooting_how_did_people_commit_mass_murder_before_automatic_weapons_.html

Cleveland man pleads guilty in bridge-bombing plot

AKRON, Ohio — One of five men accused of attempting to blow up the Ohio 82 bridge in the Cuyahoga Valley National Park pleaded guilty Wednesday and agreed to cooperate in the prosecution of his four former co-defendants...
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The five men, described by federal prosecutors as domestic terrorists, are accused of planting what they believed to be actual bombs at the Ohio 82 bridge that spans the national park between Brecksville and Sagamore Hills Township.

FBI agents reported that they foiled the plot with the help of an informant by supplying the men with fake plastic explosives and arresting the five on April 30 as they tried to detonate the explosives with a cellphone.
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The defense attorneys for the remaining four defendants said they will attempt to prove at trial that the FBI and a paid informant entrapped the men in the bridge-bombing plot. The lawyers have asked the judge to order prosecutors to turn over internal FBI emails and other evidence in an attempt to attack the credibility of the informant and the techniques that the FBI used.

"We believe the FBI agents violated their internal rules regarding their handling of the informant and what they instructed him to do," said John Pyle, defense attorney for Baxter. "This is information we need to have."

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/07/cleveland_man_pleads_guilty_in.html

the north korean women's soccer team members

all have the same haircut.

what's up with that?

concealed carry permit holder shoots self in the butt, five year old kid, then flees cops

right in the wal-mart checkout line.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/07/concealed_weapons_permits_are_awesome.php?m=1

how would the gun control debate be different if the shooter had been a radical muslim carrying out

jihad? I mean someone who had the pedigree: home to Pakistan and trained, etc. And also bought his guns legally here like Holmes did.

the most important numbers are

The economy and understands problems Americans face. This race will be close in the popular vote. Maybe not so much the electoral college. Obama will win both but the latter by a wider spread than the former.

That's my prediction.

i dont have a team

when its:

all guns must be banned

vs.

the right tote around the firepower of a platoon of marines

and nobody will budge, they see one another as "tramplers of rights" or "fetishists".