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The louder he spoke of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons

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I'm still 100% cool with Bernie and 100% behind the policies he discusses.

I'm forgiving him for the primary, but I don't like it. Still don't like Hillary. If I did I would never even bother offering up suggestions or telling you how you are messing up.

I know about the policy. One of the reasons I hate the Clintons is because I feel like they smiled in our faces and sold us some bullshit and stabbed us in the back. We'd never let them get away with that bullshit again, but they keep apologizing and asking us for suggestions and listening to what we say and incorporating that into the message. They have pretty much been forgivenb(really, the more you guys repeat it the more people just forgive them), but we will be watching them like hawks for missteps. I only have one vote. You need millions of votes like mine. I can only try to tell you what I know.

Black people are forgiving. We forgive slavery, Jim Crow, whatever, we want to move forward and if we held a grudge for every offense this nation would burn. Most are VERY religious. Hence the forgiving. Hillary loves her some church. She will go to a black church and pray her ass off and sing some gospel and reaaly feel that shit. Black folks love people that love jesus. We and hispanics are some of the most religious folks in this nation. I went to church 2 or 3 days a week and did not consider myself a conservative christian. It was normal for black people to spend alot of time at church. Half the sermons are about forgiveness, but that's because we have soooo much to forgive.

I am an atheist. I'd rather not vote for anybody than vote for Hillary. I will sit out the primary possibly rather than vote for her. But I will not trash talk her. And I will attend church on occasion for fun. I don't mind. I go to be with my people.

Can't win black votes unless you understand them and speak with them and empathize. You have to get emotionally involved.

Realize that you are harming your candidate and don't talk about us like that.

That passive aggresiveness is what I mean. Yes we internalize attacks against him from our own allies. And it was much more than criticism. Piece of shit used car salesman? All those recs? Those reccers are the same ones yelling the loudest for team Bernie. Why would black folks want to belong to a group that trashes him so thoroughly and tells us we're stupid (basically, uninformed they call us)? We don't want to belong to that group. The same group hate Holder, Lynch, loves Cornell West who says racist shit about Obama that only a black person can say and they cheer him on and promote his support of Bernie.... They promote him as better than Obama. Alot of us only started voting BECAUSE of Obama and many will follow his lead. Hillary is smart for being quiet and saying nice shit about Obama. The more she promotes Obama the more black votes she gets.
Now. Do not say I did not tell you this. Mark this post because I'm fucking prescient.

I am definately NEVER a victim. I am a strong woman and I do not need to play a role.

I say what I mean, I mean what I say, and artifice is not in my nature. I know I give as good as I get, I'm PROUD of that fact. I do not shrink, I find the humor in life, and I always look to the future and find solutions.
Many people have a problem with my bluntness. Too bad. Many had a problem with his. Too bad. He was NOT a VICTIM. He gave as good as he got and then some. I said that because it is the same way I feel about myself. Although unlike him, I have never threatened to beat another member to death, have not been banned for any reason, and do not call our Democratic president a piece of shit anything.

Oh, and I know when someone starts out with 'No offense' they intend to offend me in the worst way possible, on purpose, to try to hurt me.

Sorry. I just HAVE to save this one for my journal. For evidentiary purposes.

106. Dear Black Person,
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I think as a white man, that my best education about what is going on now comes from W.E.B. DuBois book" Black Reconstruction" coupled with Howard Zinn's " A People]s History of The United States". The detail of Du Bois book is unmatched and clearly points out how racism was a weapon the rich applied with greater vehemence after the civil war creating wage slavery amongst the newly freed slaves and poor whites.
I am sure many Black people are more aware of these works than I am, but I believe truly that racism , and sexism are tools necessary for politicians to keep working people from uniting regardless of color or sex. Du Bois book is so illustrative of how much lies, and claims of white superiority can appeal to the naturally poor egos of southern poor whites trapping them like blacks in needy service to their new rich masters, a collaboration of former slave owners and rich northern industrialists wanting to exploit resources of the south.
Zinn's book while not nearly as outrage provoking ( a good thing I believe in this case), provides a longer term view of how this need to separate the poorer classes have been a constant for protection of control and oligarchy from before the revolution until today. Clearly racism and sexism does not serve the society at large, But they are institutionalized and attempts to rid this country of their most blatant and harmful impacts are shut down by the oligarchy controlled Congress and Supreme Court, who err most repeatedly today on the side of the oligarchy of Big Business.
So we white people who remind Black people of who marched with Martin Luther King are trying tomsasy in shorthand we still see abuse and support change. We cannot feel the black pain but we can see it, and we can resist criticizing black voices across a spectrum even as we believe that desire for greater and greater economic inequality in order to feed the greed of the already wealthy and powerful is the basic culprit. We align with black in your local struggles to call attention to police brutality and will help bandaid a system to prevent as much death and destruction as possible. I recognize it is hard to think ahead when you are up to your ass in aligators, butI believe in poisoning the pond is more effective than fighting the alligators one by one.

I've told your group 150,000 times how to help Bernie with black people.

For my trouble I was called 'race nagger', told that I lack the mental acuity to understand, told how 'MUCH HE'S DONE FOR YOU PEOPLE', told that if I kept talking that white progressuves would 'pull support' from black issues, alerted until I have three hides in three days, annoyed, harassed, called a Lee Atwater plant, told to kiss Hillary's ass, told to get out of the democratic party (not welcome), that money would fix racism, etc. best thing for Bernie would be for his supporters to stfu for a while and listen to what black folks are saying if they want to increase his support.

First of all, those rallys are TOO WHITE to draw black folks to them in large numbers. If we are over thirty percent of the party, the rally should have a GOOD mix of races, not just have us playing 'Where's Waldo' looking for black faces. Second, he has so few blacks on his staff, he has no idea what we think. Third, his supporters call blacks animals and tell them to 'go back to Baltimore' at Netroots and you all wonder why we feel uncomfortable with supporting him? This is why. His message speaks to white progressives and they think his message is supoosed to speak to us. Marches from 50 years ago ain't saving our children! We want to know how he will address racism, but how can we trust a man with such racist supporters? We cannot.

I know. Most of you are probably just as upset as I am. I still love you guys. Just not the few

who are acting out of pocket. I think by next week they'll mostly see that I was right. And truthfully, I think quite a few of the nastiest don't really support Sanders so much as hate Hillary and Obama. Those are the ones who are being nasty to me these days. Not the genuine supporters who actually like people.

I'll tell you.

Stop lecturing black people on Dr. King and civil rights. Stop the paternalistic stuff. Stop telling us whats best for us. He needs to meet face to face. Hire some black staff to do social media. Go visit black churches and eat with the people. Go to a quincianera. Go on Jimmy Kimmel and read berniesoblack tweets (we love shit like that). His supporters have to stop acting like know it alls and constantly telling us that 'he marched with king before you were born!' Stop tweeting out bitter recrimintation to black twitter and Elon. Stop pretending everything is all goid with Bernie and Blacks. Hold a damn rally in a black area. Plenty more but I think you get it. Oh, listen to what the few black people still left here say. DU is a bubble and just cause you see Bernie stuff on the rec list it does not mean he has a bunch of support. Stop talking at black people about economic justice because we want social justice first so that we can live long enough to get the money. Realize racism is a probem and so is liberal racism. Stop telling us to go to republican then, like white liberals own the party and we are just here on sufferance. Realize that without us you lose.

His supporters spent all day attacking black folks on Twitter. They should have checked themselves.

I tried to warn em! But nooo! They were too busy trying to LECTURE black folks on MLK, economic justice and how to protests properly. So this is what happens when you talk AT black folks and try to LECTURE them on their OWN history and CIVIL RIGHTS and make you candidate out to be blacker than them by invoking his Marching With MLK creds over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over in a paternalistic fashion, then go all MISS MILLIE when they do not rush to support your guy and gasp! Heckle him. Oh no!!

Then go all dramatic with the tears of bitter injustice and lash out at black folks about HOW OPPRESSED YOU ARE since they didn't let poor poor Bernie (they would be LUCKY to have him as president) speak. How could they!?!? AFTER ALL HE'S DONE FOR YOU PEOPLE!!

Thug is the new Nigg**!!

Seems to me that some people here have not been informed that thug is the replacement word for nigge*. I know that some of you may find that hard to believe, but it is true.
If you find yourself desparate to use that label thug when speaking of black youth and fighting tooth and nail for the right to call them names, then I hafta tell you, there is something wrong inside of you. You gotta work on that.
When white kids riot and burn stuff and act like they done lost their minds over a sporting event, rarely are they castigated in the media and even here on DU as a pack of Thugs; we save that for the poor, desparate, tired, black, underfunded, neglected, redlined, beat down, children who are dealing with multi generational poverty and white supremacy. You know, the black ones. The brown ones too.
When you sit up in your well adjusted tower of American wonderfulness, all pale faced and bitterly angry screaming invectives at poor black youth, it reminds me of those people holding signs to prevent integration, spittle and hate flying in the breeze. That's what you look like. I figured you must not know, otherwise you'd cut it out.
Thug is the New Nigge*. Period.

Pissed off.

No need to find a label to put on them. They already have enough labels. They are sad, miserable, poor, black, overlooked, underfunded, labeled, despised, forgotten, beat down, abused, lied to, crapped on, jacked up against a wall, fatherless victims of the drug war, judged, fined, kicked...
Why do you feel the need to call those desperate souls names? Are their lives not harsh enough for you yet? Call them what you will, but at least you noticed them. Finally they got noticed.
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