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The alt-left is an illiberal left that is funded by the Russians and the RW,

and are sympathetic to Trumpism, seeing him as a populist strongman, wishing for their own such strongman from the left.

They are fringe voters who hate Dems and should never be viewed as 'on our side' or easy votes to get. It's far easier to get moderate swing voters who are at least sensible, rather than fringe voters who could be aligned with the far left one day or the far right another (horseshoe theory).

Here is the link to the article

https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/electoral-college-rating-changes-florida-and-nevada-shift-right

Ultimately I think NV will be in our column because (unlike FL) it is a Dem controlled state with full mail in voting that historically has a good GOTV operation. The Latinos there are also not ultra conservative like the Cubans but instead tend to be working class labor union types. Bernie won big in the primaries and maybe he can help with turning these voters out.

I understand the 'Latinos favor incumbency thing' but still wonder how an anti-Latino bigot (who puts kids in cages) like Trump could attract any of their votes. Also wonder why Biden seems to be having a much bigger issue with them than Hillary did. Whatever the reason he needs to reach out and message to them. Kamala could be deployed as she is a WoC with an immigrant background and has long worked with Latinos in CA, which are similar ideologically to those in NV and AZ.

CNN: Some 2016 Trump voters regret their vote.



Panel of 6 women voters in swing states, all of whom voted for Trump in 2016, 3 of which are now going to vote for Biden.

The idea that Trump can't lose votes is a myth - he can with more moderate voters who actually use their brains.

Alot of them are out of shape cowards w/personality issues,

who really should not be doing that job, but the unions protect them.

The reality is that cops also abuse alot of whites, yet many whites view the police as defenders of white America, so don't join in BLM and others who critique the police.

Problem is many whites WANT a fascist for 'their' side,

always have. America has never been a democracy for everyone and white America has worked overtime for hundreds of years to make sure of that. There are virtuous whites who have always stood against this, but they are not enough to outnumber the evil whites.

I think Biden must attack Trump on the economy, which polls show is somehow his strength. Biden needs to drive home to voters that the stock market (which is artifically inflated by the Fed shoveling cheap money) and the economy are not the same thing. Regular people are being shit on while the big corps are bailed out. This is the message which will guarantee us the Midwest ie help us with working class whites and latinos which Biden needs to improve with, as well as progressives.

-Covid mishandling. he downplayed it to prop up the market while the bodybags piled up.
-Chaos. violence, crime and racial unrest are a result of Trump's intentional divisiveness as he thinks it helps him politically.
-Corporations. big corps are riding high with 'free money' while regular folks (small biz and workers) get shit on and sent into the pandemic to die for the 1 percent.
-healthCare - very important for most people including many who have lost their coverage due to losing their job.

Covid, chaos, corps and healthcare - those are the messages to hit on. Trump has no comeback for this, game over as long as we turn out the vote.

Nailed it. This is what animates the RW,

even pre-Trump, it's just that he says the quiet parts out loud.

The majority of whites will throw away democracy itself (and will side with dictators like Putin) to maintain white supremacy. There are also some non-whites who will choose to be 'house slaves' and side with the RW. None of these people are abandoning Trump for any reason.

However, a story like this could have an impact with moderate Repubs and independents who are on the fence. Such voters tend to view issues of national security and the military to be very important, and Biden actually is more conservative (and more establishment) than Trump on these issues.

Market being artifically pumped while regular people beg for help.

That's the real scandal here, the big corps getting bailed out again while regular folk get shit on.

Unfortunately many regular people don't get this, that the stock market and the economy is not the same thing.

Dems are missing this as an issue, and how to frame it - we can't let Trump (who inherited Obama's economy) beat us on the economy.

The past two Dem presidents ushered in great economies while the last two Repub presidents were terrible.
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